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[-] Serdan@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

Colonizers are always responsible for any violence that follows.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I'm down with blaming the British

[-] Serdan@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Well, that goes without saying.

[-] homoludens@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So if Native Americans fired rockets on e.g. Corpus Christi, Texas, they would have no responsibility at all for this action?

I am not denying the responsibility of "the colonizers", I think other people can also have some responsibility.

[-] Serdan@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

They'd be justified.

The point is to not condemn the oppressed without regard for their oppression.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

So just to be clear, if a Native American went up to you, told you that he was going to shoot you because your ancestors stole his land, and then murdered you, you have no qualms about this?

[-] Serdan@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago
[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Neither are most people living today. Their ancestors were. And as a Westerner, you're benefiting from the colonizers' actions even if you're an immigrant. By your logic, their murder of you would be justified.

You can't blame descendants for what their ancestors did, but you can ask them to share the wealth they own because of their ancestors with you.

[-] Serdan@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

When did the colonization of the Americas end? I must have missed it.

I'm not an immigrant. Not really sure what you're trying to say.

There's no political will to make up for past and ongoing crimes against Native Americans. In a democracy that makes the common people complicit, no?

[-] homoludens@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Where in this thread did someone "condemn the oppressed without regard for their oppression"?

[-] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They're not being oppressed if they choose to live the why they do. At some point the drug addict needs to come to terms with the fact they are the ones causing their self harm. They could compromise and stop their killing/ bloodshed to build a peace but they don't. Continuously attacking is one of the most dumbass moves they keep making. I'm out of sympathy and patience for these idiots. Keep crying but do nothing. Other parts of the Arab world have moved on and made peace with Israel. The Palestinians only have excuses and children to sacrifice at this point.

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