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But what about the people here in this thread who said why they're not voting for democratic politicians?
Do you not consider our actions informed or motivated by survival?
Do you personally believe voting for Biden in 2024 would improve my chances for survival? You're talking a lot about what other people believe, but what do you believe?
Do you think the democratic party is doing its best to fight fascism? Do you think Biden will do something different in 2024 to prevent fascism?
As a non-white person who is constantly harrassed by right-wingers, and who knows that voting won't overthrow the burgeoisie, voting blue is a means of not getting lynched on the street and to be able to get enough time until the revolution is ready.
If the fascists start burning my people in crosses and genociding them, no amount of voting third party is going to do shit.
That is what I believe. I don't have the cracker privilege of voting third party.
As a queer non-white person who is constantly harassed by right-wingers, voting blue is a way for people to check in with their community one day in November every four years.
The fascists are already here. They have been lynching my people, your people, and anyone else they can get away with. They escape the law because the law in the US is upheld by fascists and their enablers.
Biden didn't close the camps at the border. He didn't make covid safer. He didn't pack the courts or use his executive powers to prevent the overturn of Roe v Wade.
I don't have the privilege of voting third party. I have the priority of taking care of the people in my life because the two major parties are engaged in political theater.
Have you read project 2025? That will probably change your mind. It is terrifying.
I have read about it. It's bad. The republican party is getting overrun by mask-off fascists. I know they're an existential threat to me and mine.
It's really something the DNC should consider when making their campaign platform. They still have time to engage people and mobilize voters.
The crackers still sell you and your rubber-stamp either way. Toeing the line is not going to save you and yours.
Have you read project 2025? That will probably change your mind. It is terrifying.
I refuse to let one side's boogeymen browbeat me into supporting the people who sold my community, down to my blood relatives into fucking carceral slavery. There is no good guy, no option to even critically support in this fight. May they bleed each other.
I hope that if republicans win, they wont make more laws to make it easier to throw us in prison and for crackers to more easily get away with murdering us and our allies. Republicans are just full nazis now and that is terrifying. I am not being hyperbolic here.
the liberals are just as likely to do this, and more likely to have their version actually become reality
They are both liberal
It's the dems who are building cop cities tho, and bidens funding for police outstrips Trump's and broke every record
I don’t have an issue with people who won’t vote for a right wing party. I understand the reasoning and am not interested in trying to convince them to vote.
For myself, I am scared of how much worse things can get. I have lost rights because of Trump’s appointments, but also he would not have been able to do so if Democrats hadn’t enabled him to with their apathy and desire to not solve wedge issues to maintain voter turnout.
I personally will vote because the amount of effort for me is minuscule and it’s a bit of a Pascal’s wager. Either way, we’re heading towards disaster, but I guess I’m too scared to be the frog jumping out of boiling water into an inferno.
I think it's valid to vote if you feel a need to. I'm not gonna tell other people not to vote. It's your business, and besides, I get the impression that your political involvement doesn't start and end with voting.
it's interesting you bring that up because one of the huge holes in the wager is "what if one of the other religions is right" and we'd all support the fuck out of a vanguard if the FBI took too long to murder it.