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[–] Lehmuusa@nord.pub 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I like it how the map essentially says "we cannot find anything proper to complain about Italy."

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

“We stole half our flavor profiles from them and refuse to admit it, so we pretend like anything we stole is actually just common knowledge.”

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it is not like tomatoes are native italy

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 3 points 2 days ago

The Italians embraced them much sooner and did a lot more with them. The French were too worried they were poisonous because they were nightshades and only slowly adopted them with the advent of tomato exports from Italy and Spain.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We improved them. One of Italy's most famous dishes, carbonara pasta, has a French version that is way better.

[–] ATPA9@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you really just leave us hanging without telling us how to upgrade carbonara?

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 1 points 16 hours ago

https://tangerinezest.com/en/creamy-bacon-pasta-with-onion-french-carbonara/

Basically, pasta with cream and bacon. It's barely carbonara anymore, but it's what we call it anyway.

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the Korean version is even better.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I looked it up and it's spicy carbonara. I should try this.

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 2 points 2 days ago

There are massive leaps to be made by combining French techniques with foreign ingredients, it just requires accepting that maybe other places also have good food, perhaps even better food in some cases.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Or, you could look at it from the other end, everything is shit.