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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 141 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There's a nonzero chance oligarchs are pushing this to normalize pedophilla.

Like how Ghislane Maxwell was super involved in early reddit and their main draw for a long time was "legal" sexualization of children.

Especially since it's a common accusation they make against "the left". Most of the time when they accuse, it's a confession.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

pushing this to normalize pedophilla.

They don't really need to manufacture how normalized pedophilia is in our society. They're simply capitalizing on it.

[–] huey_m@piefed.social 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Doesn't the widespread outrage kind of speak against this, though?

Here in Hungary, it was a scandal regarding the cover up of sexual abuses of young children under state protection that sparked the overthrow of Orbán, and was the only thing that managed to crack that nut finally. It's hard to overstate how much it galvanized people, even his own supporters, against him.

I don't know, I understand that it's demoralizing and I can even buy the argument it's more normalized than it should be, but the very existence of outrage against figures like Epstein (which seem to me to be extremely widespread, though maybe I'm missing something being out of the country for some years at this point) or this Hungarian scandal lead me to think the vast, vast majority of people do not find it remotely normal or acceptable. I don't think tarring all of society with the brush that it's been normalized is accurate. Or I'm misunderstanding what you mean by normalized.

[–] madmantis24@lemmy.wtf 8 points 2 days ago

It's extremely telling that your comment is the first I've heard of that aspect of the election in Hungary. The mainstream press in the US effectively shrugged and said "I guess they just got tired of him"

In fact, it feels a lot like how the press in my country "explained" Obama's first election. Just a vague "Americans are tired of the Republican leadership and wanted change," Like the torture and disappearing of anyone they could sweep under the abstract wars of the time wasn't outrageous enough

[–] Carl@anarchist.nexus 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hell, I vividly remember the old /u/ViolentAcrez thing, and tons of users being butthurt when subs like /r/Jailbait, /r/CreepShots, and /r/Upskirting were taken down.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Ok I was unaware of the Maxwell involvement

[–] gagcar@lemmus.org 16 points 2 days ago

And maybe no surprise, Epstein was involved with the beginnings of 4Chan.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 8 points 2 days ago

it's highly likely she was u/maxwellhill