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Hang on to your Firefox! (www.newsonaut.com)
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[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How is this different to Firefox? Vertical tabs, containers (workspaces), tab previews (glance).

Looks interesting but I can't figure out what makes this different to what I can already do in Firefox.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It is different in that it breaks every few releases. Otherwise Firefox is sufficient if vertical tabs is the aim. I used zen for over a year before I just got tired of the constant breaking.

Zen devs were incredibly bad about messing with my workflows that I had setup for Zen. So much so that I eventually just stopped updating the app and moved back to Firefox to let them get their goals together.

I use Zen for small things like research and whatnot, but Firefox will always be the only browser I use for serious stuff like banking and bills.

Zen is better these days, but the fact I can't get rid of the spaces crap really irks me. I don't need it, and don't want it, but it is a "core part" of their ethos so I am stuck with it. I just renamed it to ... and stopped worrying about it as much. Still recommend giving it a shot for smaller stuff, but definitely not banking and the like.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I had a similar experience when I tried it a few years back

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

still breaks. I'm not a fan of it.

I do like Floorp though. slightly bit more customization, fairly solid Japanese dev team that doesn't release something until everything is rock solid so you know updates aren't going to break anything. I can't even recall the last time Floorp broke if ever.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

When I tried floorp a few years back, it never even felt in a working condition. Probably much better now, but the second I tried any of the customizations, things seemed to break and get stuck. Firefox has been solid for me since before it was Firefox.

[–] jaygray91@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I stick with zen because of spaces. I have a few, e.g. common browsing, work or serious topics, finances, shopping. Each of them I assigned default containers that they will run. And each if them have different pinned tabs related to the spaces.

It's been so long since I switched that I honestly forgot how Firefox base is. I think before I switched I used sideberry to do all that spaces thing but zen is more integrated feeling.

There's just something that hits it for me that it's indispensable for me.