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[–] dotCody@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (6 children)

WHY do you people keep voting for Ford?!

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago

They dont vote at all. Province is full of idiots.

[–] jade52@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The people who are voting for Ford are rural and suburban people who have only driven a car their entire lives to get to school, work, groceries, etc. Most of Ontario is not walkable or bikeable. So if you've only ever gotten places by driving in a car your whole life, why would you want bike lanes? Why not just get a car? Source: I lived in suburban hell my whole life until 2015. Literally nobody gave a shit about any transportation method other than their car.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, honestly, you don't have to go that far to get to a point where biking becomes hellish. By the time you hit St. Clair the cycling network is already sparse, which in turn makes driving easier / necessary, which then makes people more car focused.

It's a feedback loop problem that can go either direction. I genuinely think that Ford and his friends are just fucking morons and don't understand how self defeating they're being in the long run.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

So if you’ve only ever gotten places by driving in a car your whole life, why would you want bike lanes?

Because bike lanes get the cyclists out of the car drivers' way. No bike lane = cars stuck behind the bike.

Bike lanes are car infrastructure, not bike infrastructure. If it weren't for cars, bike lanes wouldn't be necessary.

[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

not buying a car is an attack on Canadian Auto Workers

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Then I have been waging war for decades

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Well, a few reasons. In the 2022 election Ontario had a voter turnout of 44%, meaning whoever gets chosen, it's not by "most people" because most people didn't even show up. Of those who did, 40% of votes were cast for Ford's party. So in terms of popular vote and raw numbers, about 18% of valid electors actually checked a box next to a Conservative candidate. Doesn't that feel kinda weird?

From the 40% of votes that were cast for a Conservative candidate, they received 68% of the seats. So even among the Ontarians that voted, 54% of them voted for someone left of Conservative and instead we got 68% Conservative representatives in parliament.

Of the places that voted for Conservative, most of them had relatively low population. Unsurprisingly, if you look at a map of Ontario for the riding results by colour, you can basically see where all the population centres are because they are the ones that aren't blue. So, as a concrete example, the places he's removing bike lanes are predominantly not places he was votes for.

To conclude, basically we don't vote for him. But he wins anyway due to structural bullshit, a lack of proportional representation, and then a bunch of apathy likely brought on by a lack of representation.

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[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Let me guess "he tells it like it is!" and "I just feel like I could sit down and have a beer with him"

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

He's old, white, fat and stupid. Lots of people identify with him.

[–] Pixel_Jock_17@piefed.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fucking hell your dad/uncle/brother/whomever says this too?

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Toronto loves anyone with Ford next to their name.

[–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Because beer is $1 now. Nobody fact check that.