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[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 20 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Entrapment sounds like typical Florida pig style.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 18 hours ago

Isn't entrapment when the cops are persuading you to do it. This seems more like they set bait and someone comes and does the deed

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This does not remotely fit the legal definition of entrapment

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

There are two possible reasons for putting up a fake, to scare people to behave themselves and to catch someone destroying it. The latter has been happening a lot and is widely covered by the news. If it is the first then maybe it wasn't ~~entrapment~~ baiting, but i can't think of any other reason. Also the article specifically states the intent of the cops.

[–] baronofclubs@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Bait isn't entrapment. Entrapment is when the government persuades someone to do something they normally wouldn't and charging them for it. So, an undercover officer can't pressure you to rob a bank and then charge you for it. This is more akin to a bait car, prostitution sting, or surveillance.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Still seems like the same thing..

I wouldn't normally beat up a guy, but if a police officer was in plainclothes beating the shit out of a woman on the street, I might do the right thing and beat him up.

This person might not normally cut down invasive surveillance technology, but if the police put up a fake flock camera in his neighborhood, he might do the right thing and cut it down.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago

I wouldn't normally beat up a guy, but if a police officer was in plainclothes beating the shit out of a woman on the street, I might do the right thing and beat him up.

And that wouldn't be entrapment

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Thanks for clarifying, didn't know the difference.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That's what I was thinking. Isn't this a classic case of entrapment? I guess it doesn't matter since it's Florida.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Legally no, it's not entrapment. Still if the cops hadn't placed the bait, there would be no crime. They know where the line is, and ride it.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I should add that given the details it's not entrapment. At the same time though, there are thousands of flock cameras, and somehow the cops knew this particular spot for a fake one would lure someone in? There's no telling if they instigated it in some way not mentioned. And the charges they filed are very likely to fall apart anyway, because it wasn't a flock camera, it was a cheap decoy, and felonies are based on actual value, not imaginary. It also may not have been authorized to be installed. So the defendant could legally have been removing vandalism from a pole.

This is why you can't really adjudicate from a news story, there's a million unknowns, and often weird technical details to laws that aren't well known to the public. Top that off with most news information coming from defense lawyers giving an intentionally biased account of events, because the police don't just call the press most of the time. And when they do, it's usually to give their own damning version of events.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Good stuff, thanks