So, I don't really know where to start here... I guess I'll just ramble on and hope I make sense. Episode 246 of The Deprogram was very controversial, if you go to the comments section of it and listen to the arguments made by JT, Yugo and Hakim it's, well... in my opinion pro-reformist. From what I can tell, an ACP channel (which if you don't know, the ACP is the American Communist Party, it can be described as Patriotic Socialist / NazBol / mixing right wing nationalism, bigotry, fascism with communism and also it actually tried to takeover the subreddit r/TankieTheDepogram, which was a whole thing not too long ago) has used this opportunity to propagndise for the ACP by making a video on this episode, a video which in my opinion was actually pretty good. It mostly just quoted Lenin so that's a big reason for the quality really lol.
At no point, apart from an American flag in the intro which I missed at first watch, does he argue for anything to do with the ACP or show any sign of being affiliated with them, unless maybe I have missed something I guess. Instead it seems he has taken this controversy as an opportunity, with this video, to promote himself as more communistic than the deprogram boys, get new subscribers and then he will I suspect down the line pull these new subs toward the NazBol nonsense.
I realised what was happening because at 12:35, in the video above, he mentions a channel which he claimed makes the type of content that Second Thought should, this channel is called REDGOD. So I start watching some of this REDGOD's videos and my ACP radar starts going off because of how much this guy is centering his content around America, I then notice something, his first upload is collabed with MidwesternMarx - a major promoter of the ACP. I'm thinking maybe this REDGOD guy doesn't know MidwesternMarx very well but I click on the video and the comments are well, let me just post a screenshot:
Yeah, so at this point I go back to the RTSG channel and see a video collabed with Jackson Hinkle, another major promoter for the ACP! Fuck me, these ACP bastards are sneaky, I feel like I just became friends with someone and then found out they beat their dog, you know, like I began to like this RTSG guy and REDGOD and now I am just disgusted that I was duped & invested in a person & didn't realise sooner (it took me like an hour before I clocked the ACP shit) what they are.
https://youtu.be/-XL6K1gbT-M - RTSG collab with Jackson Hinkle to help launch the channel
https://youtu.be/fPyf8MRT3-I - REDGOD collab with MidwesternMarx to help launch the channel
edit: https://youtu.be/GhHGffxUc3E - episode 246 of deprogram
ACP is genuinely a bigger threat to communism in America than either Dems or GOP. I wouldn't be surprised if Langley pays their bills.
This is an absurd statement. They are a fringe and irrelevant group. They are nowhere near as big of a danger as the Republican and Democratic parties which are core pillars of US imperialism.
They are a fringe group being given an artificially inflated reach by their bourgeois benefactors, allowing them to not only spread their vile fascism to audiences that wouldn't otherwise see them but also tarnishing the reputation of communism with their unironic horseshoe ideology.
What self-proclaimed "communists" have to say will always be more damaging to us than what our openly critical enemies say about us.
I think the better way to look is, ACP is a threat to communist organizing in the US while the Dems and Reps are a bigger threat for the working class worldwide.
I agree with you they are a considerable threat, and the reason is that many fascists ideologues used Marxist theory (a revised version of it) to lure workers in places where communists were strong or were gaining traction (like Italy). Revisionism was great issue in the context of the 1920s and 1930s.
i thought it was pretty clear that's what she meant by "ACP is genuinely a bigger threat to communism in America than either Dems or GOP." (emphasis mine)
I agree with her, my comment is more like an answer to cfgaussian, and I decided to add in the same thread instead of branching to another one.
Jackson Hinkle is NOT an irrelevant person. He is their co-leader.
I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. ACP are largely irrelevant.
The Nazis were also irrelevant at one point.
If you think ACP is going to take over the US government... I think you are online a bit too much.