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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

The middle language is not a spoken language. Googles AI created an intermediary language (like 10+ years ago) to translate between all languages. It's not written/spoken, it's done on weights. It's referred to as an 'interlingua'

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2114748-google-translate-ai-invents-its-own-language-to-translate-with/

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In my experience, with the amount of mistakes similar to the one in the OP, I strongly suspect that language is somehow unbelievably close (semantically) to English then.

I decided to quickly experiment with two languages I somewhat know, and got 3/3 incorrect translations consistent with English as intermediary:

  • Russian ширинка (fly, meaning "zipper on your trousers") -> Georgian ფრენა (to fly, as in "flight") - completely incorrect translation, consistent with English as intermediary
  • Russian парковаться (to park, as in "park your car") -> Georgian პარკი (park, meaning "green space with trees") - completely incorrect translation, consistent with English as intermediary
  • Russia лежать (to lie, as in "lie on your back") -> Georgian ტყუილი (lie, as meaning "untruth") - completely incorrect translation, consistent with English as intermediary

It makes exactly the same mistakes if you translate from Russian to Spanish and French too.

I don't know if there are many other languages where "zipper on your trousers" and "flight", "park your car" and "green space with trees", "lie on your back" and "untruth" would all be pairwise the exact same word. I strongly suspect not, or at least it would be a language really close to English.

[–] moonshine69@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Very old article, they are absolutely just using llms nowdays

Edit: this is the paper https://arxiv.org/pdf/1611.04558 the article is about

[–] dreugeworst@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

you'd think they would use embeddings nowadays instead, with all the llm hype going on