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[–] nagaram@piefed.social 60 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

As with all things, its complicated.

The romans knew that those who worked in lead mines or were lead smiths suffered tons of problems and died early because of their occupation.

The dangers of lead were never a mystery.

But they also knew that it takes more than simply touching lead to get sick. So they knew their lead pipes were fine since it was a low pressure gravity system unlike our modern system that is pressurized. Lead pipes in a pressurized environment actually mixes with the lead and causes problems.

And water logistics are NECESSARY to keep a city like Rome alive. So lead smiths were needed because lead is CRAZY USEFUL for all things precise and plumbing related.

But, lead also famously has a sweet smell when formed into lead acetate. And romans love sweet wines. So they'd boil down grapes and berries in lead pots to make a lead acetate sweetener. This theyd mix with wines to enhance them. Something they generally knew was bad but who knows. I like to think of it as the ancient roman equivalent of smoking. Yes objectively bad, but sometimes you need an extra sweet wine to take the edge off.

I'll give you better sources later. I think I got this from Mary Beards "SPQR" which is a must read. Not chronological, but fuck chronology. Where my thematics gang at!

[–] RaphaelSchmitz@feddit.org 3 points 3 hours ago

Difficult to imagine there wasn't a group of proto-magats with "I should have the right to drink lead if I want it! I thought this was a civitas liber! I'm not gonna live in fear, not gonna let those liberales tell me excrementum."

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago

You are awesome thank you for sharing all this context 😄

That all makes a lot of sense, there’s definitely similar concepts today where it’s understood that the dose makes the poison, so to speak.

I’ll have to check out that book it sounds fascinating, for sure

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 19 hours ago

Love Mary Beard! She’s the host/presenter of a number of Roman documentaries that can be found on YouTube, if anyone else is interested.