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[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Except that there's not, canonically, until Starfleet Academy. The Doctor from Voyager develops it roughly 200 years after the end of the Voyager series - and that only ages his appearance on a voluntary basis. He's still effectively immortal.

Plus, previously to this "final solution" in TNG, when they turned the holodeck off for a number of years, Moriarity was still conscious, frozen in a dead world and aware of the passage of time, but did not age.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

While it's not a hologram, it's established in TNG that another artificial lifeform was created with the capacity to naturally age and die on a human timescale.

spoilerData's mother, who is a Soong android but doesn't know it.
The same is later established in Picard for
spoilerPicard's replacement body.

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

True to some extent on point one, but because an android is a physical manifestation, the aging process can be simulated through mechanical means. This isn't quite the same as the limitations placed on a hologram, which are entirely programmatic.

I'm gonna confess that I didn't make it all the way through Picard, so I'll absolutely give you that point - but I'll also point out that this makes it exceptionally cruel, because as far as I know, Picard doesn't go back and give Moriarity a replacement body.

Back to point one - the hologram should in theory be easier to age than an android, as its entirely programmatic. But then this brings up the question, if you program in aging and death to a hologram, how is that any different than a death sentence?

In Moriarity's case, if he is programmed to age and die in the simulation, Picard has become his executioner - although a random number generator for M's lifespan might ease his conscience a bit. If not, Picard becomes an absent jailor.

The only moral decision that supports Federation principles (or at least TNG principles) is to let Moriarity go free as soon as the technology is available. He is, canonically, the first member of a newly discovered intelligent species.