THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
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③ Saying ~~cops~~ ANYONE should be killed lowers the IQ in any conversation. They're about killing people; we're not.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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This is the comment you replied to. If you don't understand how you fell into fascist ideology by trying to say (and I'm paraphrasing) 'no you're wrong' to this, using the arguments you've made 100% falls into 'the enemy is both weak and strong' category.
And no, idiots do not get away with fraud - rich people do. There is a distinct difference between the two, and if you don't understand that then you shouldn't be weighing in on the topic.
Like everyone else that responded to me about this.
idk you think im saying theyre all dumb, im not, that's a strawman you invented in your comment you just cited. they are in fact bad people, sorry if youre girlfriend is maga or something. adn there's plenty of stupid people who are good people and that's why they didn't vote for trump. you don't have to be smart to not supprt a child rapist. and yes plenty of rich people are idiots, again you're conflating things that have nothing to do with each other.
This is your response. You are trying to suggest that the people who are victims of propaganda are simply all bad people instead of what they are - fucking ignorant and incapable of escaping it.
You can hate them for that. I hate them for that. It does not change the reality that what you're saying is empirically incorrect.
The victims were the ones who voted for him only the first time. The second time there's no excuse.
They're victims of propaganda still. You have to understand that at a level of 77 million people that the issue is systemic. Again, I hate MAGA - but to pretend that every single MAGA voter is a liar, cheater, bully, etc. is just wrong.
Unforgivable stupidity, yes. I think every MAGAt owes reparations to every non-MAGAt. That includes the non-MAGAts the world over.