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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

organisers declined to exclude Israel over its conduct in the war against Hamas in Gaza and violence against Palestinians in the West Bank

WTAF guardian, how far does the genocide go before you stop both sidesing it?

Did you not quote all of it?

Because they said two things Israel is doing, that's not how "both sideaing" works

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think even framing it as a war against Hamas is disingenuous, Hamas have all but surrendered they haven't launched launched anything at Israel since October (when Israel agreed to a ceasefire that they have violated regularly).

Would any other genocide get such a friendly write-up, is Russia's war against the Ukrainian government?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Israel and specifically Netenyahu funding Hamas for decades doesn't make it any less complicated...

is Russia’s war against the Ukrainian government?

Did you just ask if people were calling what you're calling a war....

A war?

Like, I think you answered you're own question there

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Russia is at war with Ukraine, they are killing plenty of regular people not in the government.

Israel is commiting genocide against the people of Gaza it isn't at "war with Hamas"

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

No, they're saying you don't bend out of your way to say Russia is fighting there Ukrainian government and is not targeting Ukrainians, yet despite watching them proudly and gleefully live stream their genocide of Palestinians, some of you still insist it's okay to say Israel is fighting a war with Hamas.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Calling it a war now is disingenuous. The war ended. Israel did not hold up their end of the bargain. They continue to unilaterally slaughter Palestinians, regardless of their affiliation

[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Calling it a "war" is both sidesing it

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, calling it a "war" is what the word "war" actually means

I assure you, in the absolute vast majority of wars, one side really doesn't want to be in the war, and one side is the one invading.

Like, what the fuck would you count as "war" if it's not this?

Can you link some sort of source that backs up your opinion? Because if it's just personal opinion I'm probably going to block you instead of out the effort into changing someone's nonsensical personal opinion.

[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds like you're not really open to hearing differing opinions.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, it sounds like I know what a war is.

That is not an opinion.

If an opinion changed the definition of words, then everyone just uses words to mean different shit to make their opinion sound right.

Like, I could call it a fucking cupcake factory, and then demand you debate cupcake factories with me.

But if I did that, you'd probably be able to realize how irrational your logic is.

[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A war implies some kind of parity. There is no parity. They're dropping bombs on unarmed civilian populations. Vietnam was a war because the Vietcong had the ability to fight back. Hamas hasn't been able to fight back in years.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1z_xtOmgek. (Video is "Is it War?" A fake game show where a contestant has to identify if the American government classifies something as a war or not, it's comedic but highlights my point)

You're using logic that is used to say Vietnam wasn't a war, while saying it was a war...

I could respect it's just an opinion if it was consistent and try to explain, but it's not consistent.

You have one foot on both sides of a line, and even people who are doing the same thing, won't have their balls dangling over the exact same spot.

You gotta pick one or the other, or eventually you'll find out everyone disagrees with you.

That's not a big deal if we're talking about psychedelic blues jazz fusion.

But we're talking about war, a fundamental human concept, we all have to use the same definition

[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Your thought sounds kinda disorganized and you seem more aggressive than this topic merits. I'm not sure why, but I believe discussions should be about finding consensus and you don't seem interested or capable of doing that.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

seem more aggressive than this topic merits.

You're in /Worlnews and you think people care too much about the multiple wars and genocides happening and don't understand why they get upset when someone blurs the lines?!

Then block me, and you won't see my comments.

Block every single person that gives a fuck even.

Because they're going to be upset about what's happening, and probably will be for a while.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Israel is not conducting a war against Hamas in Gaza, they are conducting a genocide of mostly children in Gaza.

Still calling it a war today should automatically register a red flag, and the fact that it doesn't for your is itself a red flag.