He never had 60 present to overcome the filibuster and only passed ACA because Joe fucking Lieberman was bribed by the insurance industry to remove the public option. You should edit your posts for factual accuracy.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I read it, written by Gov. Jennifer M. Granholm.

And if your party member is incapable of voting then he should have resigned a long fucking time ago. That's on them for not forcing him out. The same way Ruth Bader Ginsburg should have resigned due to her failing health instead of clinging to last vestiges of power.

I guess you are going to defend Sen. Dianne Feinstein now too, when she incapable of doing her job, but being forced to stay in her position because that's convientent for Adam Schiff to stay in power.

[–] rusticus1773@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Moving the goalposts is a lazy form of debate. Thank you for admitting you were wrong about Obama having a supermajority and should have codified abortion rights.

I will agree with you that they should have forced Ginsburg out and Feinstein should have been voted out a year ago. But that's not what you initially claimed (multiple times, I might add).

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But not Senator Byrd, right?

[–] rusticus1773@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again with the goalposts. Facts are facts. Admit you were wrong about Obama having a supermajority. Unless you are just being a provocateur, you don't help your case when you clearly miss the truth and deflect from admitting it.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Okay. I checked the timeline. It's shit.

Robert Byrd was relased from hospital in 2009-06-30 - https://rollcall.com/2009/06/30/byrd-released-from-hospital-2/
Al Franken's was sworn in 2009-07-07 - https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna31778598
Robert Byrd was again only hospitalized in 2009-09-22 - https://www.politico.com/story/2009/09/byrd-admitted-to-hospital-after-fall-027429

[–] rusticus1773@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. Byrd was 91 and "out of commission". He wasn't present and your timeline means nothing. I'll say it again for the tenth time, Obama did not have a supermajority to override a Republican filibuster.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not my timeline. It's me proving your timeline in https://www.huffpost.com/entry/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869 is just factually wrong.

[–] rusticus1773@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lololol. First, Franken’s timeline is as stated. Byrd was out. You somehow think that his being out of the hospital means he was present and voting? Are you an idiot?

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you an idiot?

Is not an argument.

I'm out. I was open to discussion until personal attacks.

[–] rusticus1773@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

You were never open to a discussion because you refused to admit you were wrong about the supermajority. And you’ve spent a lot of time deflecting from that fact.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just gonna call you out for a sec.

He said Ginsburg and Fenstein, because you said Ginsburg and Feinstein. While the answer to this question could easily be a "yes", this wasn't part of the original message. You're expecting him to bring up things you yourself didn't.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And if your party member is incapable of voting then he should have resigned a long fucking time ago.

It was.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're just arguing in bad faith. We can easily just say yes but if you don't explicitly bring it up then you're just trying to find a way to debase the argument. You shouldn't expect people to answer for people you only bring up after your first argument didn't give you the results you wanted.