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No mention of adding the audio jack back. Sad, because it would be a solid phone with one.
Also, imo, it's a huge miss when marketing for less e waste
What they did with the wireless earbuds is amazing. User replaceable batteries on an earbud is something I hadn't seen before. And definitely kudos to them for doing that.
But skipping on the audio jack, which could have saved so much e waste too, was such a bad take.
They did the earbuds because they can charge you 100€ for them, and then you're essentially locked to their battery subscription for when the batteries eventually fail every year. It was just a coincidence that they had just removed the audio jack before releasing them.
And even if you have usb c headphones now you have to replace the usb hub every year from wear and tear, and they get huge profit margin from it as it's an Usb2.0
Yep. No jack? Send it back.
Right to jail
Sony Xperia devices have audio jacks + good support for custom ROMs usually. They don't have the Fairphone bits of repairability and modularity though.
Noted, thanks for the recommendation. I'll take what I can get. I want a phone that can run pmos well enough for daily driving, so I'm currently waiting to see what gets done with this new (much needed) push for mainline linux on phones. I'll definitely keep an eye on sony's phones, I've heard many good things about them.
The upcoming Commodore flip phone is going to have an audio jack with an audiophile (whatever that means) DAC.
You can always just use a usb-c to 3.5mm.
no charging then
They make adapters with several ports, it's very cheap and doesn't add much.
Frankenstein
You wish to stick two cables in your phone, but sticking the same cables in an adapter first is somehow atrocious for you. This weird aversion of yours is the weirdest shit ever, I swear.
You now need 2 dongles (or a bigger, more expensive dongle) to do something you could previously do with no dongles. Not only you need to buy the dongles, but you also have to remember to take them with you and not lose them. It's a worse experience.
But your phone doesn't have a big hole in it that is practically impossible to waterproof, takes all the grime and dust, randomly breaks for no reason, requires a bunch of additional space and electronics, and all that just so small minority of users can avoid having additional three cm of cable on their meter of cable.
It's a better experience for everyone, and imperceptibly marginally worse for small percentage of people. I can't overstate how much having a small extension on a phone cable is a non-issue. The best premium one is like 7 euro, 3 cm long, and weights 9 grams.
Audio jacks are easy and cheap to waterproof, way easier to clean than usb-c ports and way sturdier than usb-c ports (in fact, it's easier to break a usb-c port due to daily headphone use, while I've never broken an audio jack, despite abusing some).
They take up space, but many other brands have easily figured it out even in smaller phones. Hell, samsung can fit a whole pen in their phones.
It does not affect people who won't use it, and I know a lot of people that would benefit from one (including myself). More importantly, it follows fairphone's supposed ideals of reducing e-waste.
And no, a 7€ dongle is not a good experience, and not a premium thing. For that price, it's also probably an analog dongle, which already requires the phone to have the extra hardware for the audio jack inside, just without the convenience of the audio jack.
Either you're satisfied with dirt cheap DAC in your dongle, or you're satisfied with the same dirt cheap DAC in most phones, or you require people to put actually good electronics in phones, which practically nobody's gonna use anyway. You can't be perfectly happy to listen to shit when it's from your phone, but suddenly dissatisfied with it when it's moved outside of the phone, you need to reevaluate whatever the fuck you're doing with your life.
It doesn't, this logic is based on nothing. People an mass aren't clinging to their old somehow working headphones that they are using daily for the last 10 years. I'm sure such people exist, they are in a vanishing minority. And in the last decade when the push away from jack was happening, majority already switched to wireless. Which allowed us to have phones that have one less weak point.
You might be an outlier. I worked part time fixing electronics back when we didn't have BT headphones, broken jack was a number one problem for any piece of electronics that had one. Granted, it was before usb-c so I can't compare, but what I can assure you, jack is unbelievably fragile, and unless it's premium quality (so not phones), you can't make it less so. It gets better for pro electronics, most of those are 6.3 so bigger and beefier.
That doesn't work on other phones. I've tried.
AFAIK it depends on the adapter, some phones have an inbuilt DAC and literally just use pins in the USB-C port for headphones, which means the dongle is literally just wires.
Other phones don't have that and require the dongle to have its own DAC.
You probably used a simple adapter on a phone which didn't have those headphone lines in the USB-C port.
As an audiophile, I gotta say that audio jacks needed to die. Often, you would get a much lower bitrate out of the whole system. "Well, the sound card attached to the jack can only do 16bit, so there's no point in going past that in the OS or motherboard." With my fairphone 6, I'm a $20 Moondrop dongle away from 32 bit 192 kHz audio, which wasn't actually possible with most flagship phones before they started dropping audio jacks, and is basically infinity as far as any human ear is concerned.
As someone who got through audiophilia stage and back, most people do not expect phone DAC to output high-res audio. They just want to plug their wired headphones on the go, without extra clutter.
You're very unlikely to hear the difference in a hustle and bustle of the city, and if you want to settle in a quiet place to enjoy your collection in all its glory, you have plenty of better options available.
Headphone jacks are still absolutely valid for many.
Audio jacks aren't only for audiophiles tho, so I have to disagree that they had to go.
Most standard DACs in motherboards are already 24/192. Even the cheapest phone or laptop will do that. Not with high fidelity, mind you, but a $20 dongle won't do a better job.
On top of that, DACs have lower fidelity the higher the bit depth and sample rate go. On a $20 dongle, the difference may even be big. If you want a DAC that will faithfully output those rates, you're gonna have to spend $200+, not $20.
Having an audio jack also doesn't stop you from connecting your own dongle or external DAC to the USB port, so it doesn't really change anything.
The real reason for audio jacks isn't fidelity and audio quality (even though they will have higher audio quality than any bluetooth earpod). The real reason for audio jacks is convenience. Not having to carry around a DAC or a dongle, being able to use old wired headphones, not having to charge your headphone battery, etc.
What you said makes no sense at all. You may be an audiophile, but you have very little understanding regarding engineering, apparently. 32bit is pointless. Hell, bit depth itself doesn't even change much (besides how quickly you can run out of storage xD).
32 bit is usually floating point and effectively the same as 24 bit for playback. Only makes a difference while recording, but even there just make sure you're not clipping and you're back to 24 bits.
When it comes to listening to music, 16bit is more than enough. There's no audible difference with 24bit.
Too bad that stuff is subjective and esoteric as hell. Ten years ago i went down the audio optimisation route for my mixing setup for audio production. I stopped taking it so serious after i read a of a test of some audio production people where the difference between 96khz/24bit and 48khz/16bit was looked into. The result was: when you move some cm out of the sweet spot of your speakers you cannot hear the difference anymore, which is ridiculous.
Bit rate isn't subjective or esoteric at all? It's literally the exact opposite, a measurable quantity that physically limits the quality of the audio.
If that is your logic, why aren't you using 48 bit or even 128 bit audio? Or what about 256 bit? The bigger the better.
This is only ridiculous if you don't know how sound works. Thankfully your point is moot when we're talking about headphones, since you're always in a sweet spot there.
Tell the DT 990 PRO that there is no sweetspot on headphones, they will tell you differently.
As someone who loved the Samsung Galaxy S series up until the S10, that's not quite true. Samsung actually built decent DACs into their phones, with the S10 having that 32 bit 192 kHz.
I'm almost certain that's not true. I have an S10+, and with an external DAC that displays the bitrate, it caps at CD quality.
Absolutely. I'm so glad we're not attached to this shitty old standard anymore.