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[–] Mikina@programming.dev 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Couldn't you argue that 0% is correct?

It's a paradox, no of the answers can be correct, so the chance that you pick the correct one is 0%.

Sure, by picking it, it makes it wrong, but you don't care about that.

If you ran a infite monte carlo test on it, you'd end up with 0% correct answers.

[–] airbreather@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Nah it's a paradox. There's no such thing as just a freestanding Monte Carlo test that you can just "run" - you do actually need to define enough parameters to make it tell you anything.

This kind of self-referential stuff feels like a proof of Gödel's incompleteness theorems with extra steps.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The trick is that there is no paradox, only the implication of one. 'If' being the key word - you're not actually being asked to answer randomly, but you are being subtly trolled.

[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You do not need to pick at all for the paradox to exist. If either A or D is correct, the other is also correct, and the random odds of selecting the correct answer should have been 50%. This is a contradiction. Neither A nor D can be the correct answer.

If B is correct, the random odds of selecting it is only 25% - a contradiction, so B cannot be correct. Likewise, if C is correct, there is a 25% chance of randomly picking C. C is also not correct.

None of the four answers is correct, so there is a 0% chance of randomly picking the correct answer. C is correct, contradiction, C is not correct, C is correct, is not, is too, etc.

The paradox is resolved by knowing the the scantron answer key has A selected. D is not sufficiently identical to A in javascript, so only the students that randomly guessed the correct answer will get credit.

Because the paradox can only be resolved with either A or D as the selected answer, well informed students picking randomly would have a 50% success rate.

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But why is C a contradiction? I'm not randomly picking it.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because your c is their c. If you were right then those randomly choosing test takers are also right.

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Why is their C my C? They're randomly choosing, I'm picking the right answer which is 0%.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 2 points 6 days ago

Because it's the same question and same options! Choosing 0% implies those who randomly selected it were right!

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you ignore self-referential nature of the question and stop the iteration at some point, sure, you can argue that any answer is correct.

If you ran a infite monte carlo test on it, you’d end up with 0% correct answers.

That would mean your Monte Carlo test is set up incorrectly because at least 1/4 of the results of the test would be the "correct" answer as per your own argument, thus invalidating it.