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[–] MJKee9@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Perfection is the enemy of the good. I understand that. I am also empathetic to the choice of those who sit out elections when they feel ignored. I don't agree with it, but i understand.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Honestly though, we're not even talking about perfection. We're not even getting anyone that's better that the stock, spineless, no-idea Democrat in a lot of places. I get why people sit out when all you hear is no big ideas other than, REPBULICAN IS BAD, VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO.

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

I'll say it until I'm blue in the face.

Not voting is a moral endorsement of whoever wins no matter how bad they may be.

(For single non-transferrable votes like we usually have in the US this also applies to spoiling your ballot or voting for a vanity candidate.)

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

We’re not even getting anyone that’s better that the stock, spineless, no-idea Democrat in a lot of places.

Do you know what's worse than stock, spinless, no-idea Democrats?

Fascist Republicans.

Do you know what happens when you sit out the vote?

You, as someone who might've voted Democrat, now are not. This increases the Republican vote.

You are enabling fascists.

People like me are frustrated by the spineless right-center Democrats as well, but I FUCKING VOTE BLUE TO PREVENT FASCISTS FROM TAKING OFFICE.

In the primary, vote progressive. Support progressives running for office! BE a fucking progressive running for office if you can. BUT WHEN YOUR CHOICE IS FASCISM OR NOT FASCISM FUCKING VOTE FOR NOT FASCISM OR YOU SUPPORT FASCISM. The general election is TOO FUCKING LATE and THAT is why you FUCKING VOTE BLUE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION NO MATTER WHO because they are better than the fucking fascist option.

Jesus fucking Christ it's not that fucking hard.

[–] berno@lemmy.world -1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Ah yes everyone in the other political party is literally Hitler. Convenient

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 0 points 50 minutes ago

Lol. Someone's been in a coma for a number of years now. Welcome back.

When a fascist authoritarian rises and takes control of a party and all that party's voters and all that party's members of Congress bend the knee for A FUCKING DECADE through all sorts of absurd bullshit, including relentless Constitutional violations then yes, they're ALL FUCKING FASCISTS.

Glad to have you back. You've got some catching up to do.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] berno@lemmy.world -1 points 18 hours ago
[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world -2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Are they? When they vote in a "bipartisan" way and ensure the fascists get 90% of their way? Nah, I've done and defended the harm reduction for the past decade and a half now, constantly holding my nose to vote for the assholes only to get mostly fascist bullshit. Nothing like Democrats who voted to give ICE MORE MONEY!

Nah, I vote in every primary for who I want and if after I vote someone who's going to run with a Republican, fuck them. I'll take the quick burn to the ground vs only burning slightly slower, not like these milquetoast assholes are actively doing anything to prevent it, welcoming fascism coming anyways.

Nah, I'm over the bullshit Blue no matter bullshit for no-idea, do nothingings especially when it's not reciprocated.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

Look, you can whine about Democrats all you want. The reality is no 3rd party is going to win the presidency anytime even remotely soon. As in, even if a 3rd party actually started putting in effort (they aren't) and Americans actually started showing support for that 3rd party on a local/state level, it would still probably take decades for that movement to gain enough traction to have a shot at the presidency.

So you WILL get Republicans or Democrats in control of our federal government for the foreseeable future, and likely the remainder of your life.

Sooooooooooooooo do the math. It's really not that hard.

You get actual fascists. Or you get a milquetoast party that's always better with our economy, doesn't violate the fuck out of our Constitutional rights, doesn't impose tariff taxes on us, doesn't have masked goons executing Americans in the streets, occasionally does things like pass the ACA/Obamacare, forgive student loans, bolster social support programs, doesn't threaten our allies and cozy up to dictators, etc etc etc etc etc etc.

More power to you if you want to vote 3rd party in local/state elections. But if you can't adult up and vote for the FAR, FAR better option when it comes to a presidential election, then you're straight garbage. Period.

I’ll take the quick burn to the ground

This is a profoundly immature statement. I promise you if a quick burn to the ground actually happened you would regret it. You are not prepared to live in a collapsed nation. I promise you.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago

welcoming fascism coming anyways.

Yeah, obviously you are.