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The funniest argument and the reason I share this is that since the utilities company that provides the tram service has a ratified goal of becoming CO2-Neutral eventually, they've elected to not buy ACs since they'd consume about 7 million kilowatt hours of electricity per year and ACs aren't sustainable. I assume the 50°C tram is gonna be a big hit as per transportation in the upcoming summers.

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[–] SerialExperimentsGay@hexbear.net 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this is a reduction of comfort, i do not want to minimize that

MFer the heat has already killed 10,000 people in Germany this summer, if you call this "Komforteinbuße" you are already minimizing that you are cooking at risk groups and accept that they may collapse from the heat on your trains.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The state of Nordrhein-Westfalen, which is where Dortmund is located, has already solved this in the heatwave about a month back: due to passenger safety concerns they've simply suspended all regional trains. Like all of them. Wasn't a train going anymore for a day or so. I think this was mostly based on if people collapse on the trains that's a them problem, if people don't have trains to get on and therefore collapse somewhere in a podunk NRW town that has no shades or benches or anywhere to get water at the train station, it's not

[–] SerialExperimentsGay@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My train girl just informed me that this isn't because the trains don't have AC, it's that the AC is so weak-ass underpowered that it doesn't properly work above 26°c.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh damn they've been downgrading, I remember a decade or so back there was an understandable scandal about the ICE AC system not working above 32°C

[–] SerialExperimentsGay@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is for Regios, not for the ICE

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

I still feel like a decade of modernity should've given us, like, better train AC across the board and not -6°C working conditions for regional trains.

Like fucking 26°C degrees? That's temperatures you'd have here before the climate got all loopy with it

[–] regul@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sometimes over here in the states they cancel local trains during heat waves because our rails were not build to anticipate the amount of thermal expansion from the record heat. Perhaps Germany has the same issue?

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

I assume this was part of it, all the train infrastructure is barely holding it together in like 15°c weather at this point but the stated, publicized reason was as above. So probably less "we'd derail our entire shit" and more "You'd be stuck in a train where the AC broke in the middle of nowhere" and then that just gets resolved to "be stuck with no AC somewhere you need to leave and collapse there"