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Sooner or later they will have to do something as a collective or some will just get dragged out of their own homes and shot anyway. Isn’t that actually happening?
Never once did I say you were a chicken so stop making shit up and stop making it about one person.
What I would be doing if I was American would be voting every single election I could, participating in any protests I can, writing to the progressive reps who are the only ones likely to listen and linking up with like any minded people at the protests and elsewhere that I can. That’s what you can do and if enough did, you’d probably have enough to pull off a national shutdown. There’s people out there trying to string something together and you can find them if you look.
Here’s some facts on it though: they elected Trump (twice) democratically, so we can’t help. They told us to mind our own business across several platforms before 2016, now they expect us not just to help out or even take care of the entire thing, but to welcome them with open arms in asylum from…an elected government. The increased problems with right wing lunacy we’re suffering are brought to us and financially backed by their political scene. They are where they are because of years of neglecting the vote and that includes institutionalising the oppressive systems they now deal with. They cannot use the 2nd Amendment, the thing they used to remind us for years how oppressed we were when they weren’t, to get out of it. The excuses they expect us to accept for it, they don’t offer other nations. They, like Churchill said, will take every other option but the correct one until they’re left with no option.
You got no alternative anyway outside of pure luck. You’ll either have to or there’ll be authorities dragging you out of your houses anyway. We’ve seen how it ends. The sooner you all get together and do it the easier it’ll be.
I've done all of the things that you said you would be doing, as have many of us (many more than voted for Trump). Our election system is broken. Not seeming to understand that comes off as victim-blaming. That's why we're defensive about the "dO sOmEtHiNg" posts. WE FUCKING DID.
Well the system was stable enough to put Biden in (on 68% turnout) so something must work. That’s the issue; there’s evidence from that, the Republicans, several state reps now, Mamdani, which is a broad cross section of recently elected, that claim doesn’t necessarily stand and when it’s raised, we’re told we don’t understand. It counters the broken system claim, on inspection.
I don’t think the protest numbers match the turnout for Trump either. I know there were protests and I know they were big but that’s around 70 million who voted for Trump wasn’t it? Maybe. I’d want a source on that though.
Either way you’re going to have to keep doing them, get lucky with a vote or go down. As we will if it comes to us. This has been going on a long time. They were repeatedly warned for years, were given a trial run, the react vote on the first run was the highest turnout they had, proving turning out works.
Why are the rest of us expected to accept this? We wouldn’t get the excuses accepted. I get a bit tired of this ‘don’t understand’ line.
Because you clearly don't. The NYC mayoral election and state rep races are not decided by the national electoral college. If you're tired of being told you don't understand, stop loudly misunderstanding so much.
But the national one is, isn’t it, and Biden won that one before the last one with the biggest turnout for a presidential yet.
Explain that one then.
It’s not misunderstanding, it’s an easy, whiny excuse, which is why it’s so commonly used and that how the rest of us see it. That is literally why I gave broad examples…because it’s an excuse.
Stop whining and finding excuses.