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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 25 minutes ago (1 children)

Americans also hate America thanks to Trump.

[–] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 minutes ago

Yeah, I can confirm this

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

As a Canadian, it's Trump

...AND his supporters

...AND you can throw in Christofascists

...AND Christian fundamentalists.

So since Westboro for me, personally.

[–] Bluedragon012@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Could say sorry, but that won't cut it. I just hope you see there are people here in the us that want all of maga leadership and billionaires to be dead and reject them. We just can't convince others. It has to be in thier face because a huge chunk are in auto pilot. I will keep fighting, however I can.

[–] HaroldBaws@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, Same here honestly

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Bro verdict was in about the first minute of his presidency.

I still can't believe this is actually happening.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

It's not just Trump. It's the Tea Party and Bush, too. We've spent the last quarter century looking over our shoulder waiting for the next catastrophe that Americans will cause and we're sick of it.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

Over 70% of the country wants him gone, but from an outsider's perspective, all they see is the fact that we voted him in.

It's going to take a very long time to undo the damage caused by Trump. Nobody is ever going to trust the United States again, unless we put safeguards in place to ensure that someone like him can never gain this level of unchecked power ever again. And I just don't see that happening in any of our lifetimes.

Honestly I’m sick of American arrogance too, the American empire should balkanize and die

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

That is really hard to do. Canadians are super friendly so if you’ve pissed them off you must really be a dickhead.

[–] arc99@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Trump has made adversaries of staunch allies with tariffs, and stupid threats towards Greenland. Meanwhile America's true adversaries just laugh at this asshole and his incompetence. I would not surprise me if enemies of the USA think he does more damage by being alive and if they bothered trying to take him out.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Well it's a damn good reason.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 6 points 5 hours ago
[–] texture@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

We been hating for a long time

[–] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Obama had the power to nationalize the banks and arrest the people who engineered the crisis. But instead let them go.

[–] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, this unfortunately. Barack Obama is a f*CKING disappointment

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago)

Well two be fair, Obama only had control of both the senate and the house for his first 72 days. Enough time to get some things done, but not a lot.

But I agree that he could have done more with the power he did hold throughout his presidency, as Trump has shown. Obama could have went buckwild with the executive orders. But alas, hindsight is 20:20.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You hate the same people we hate, Canada. Those people are broken, ignorant assholes before they are Americans. Their bullshit ruins the world for all of us.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (9 children)

So like, do something about it maybe?

[–] Soulcreator@programming.dev 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Curious, what would you recommend the Americans do?

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

A general strike. Actually disruptive protest that hits supply lines or commerce. Actual resistance actions that people in oppressive governments elsewhere have employed.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I said "Fuck it" and left. Took a 75% pay cut and left everything behind. The system dies when people abandon it.

No regrets.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

Really quick, list what you think civilized, nonmilitary, individual folks with families should do against a 50 year systemic plan, funded with trillions and led by literal psychopaths fixed on destabilizing democracy to rebuild a fascist autocracy in their own image? Every day is a real internal struggle of what to do next. Many of us have spent decades opposing in every way typical folks can, bleeding, arrest, life threatening opposition face to face with swat teams as unarmed, untrained every day people.

Your response is not helpful. It trivializes one of the largest issues in the history of civilation with no clear solution ahead.

The point of my response is that WE are not opposed, so don't try to make the good folks into opponents. Grow up, see the bigger picture and support. Offer solutions and plan on what your personal line will be when this all finds it's way to you.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Really quick

A national peaceful shutdown.

Unfortunately you’ve already prefaced the standard excuse, one which wouldn’t exist had enough people gone out to vote when needed. Any argument against that is disproven by the results Republican voters get in all elections around the country and what Mamdani did in its biggest city.

They’re not trivialising any response at all…the fact is, it’s American citizens that have to do something about it, one way or the other. The easiest solution is to vote. The next easiest now is peaceful shutdown.

There’s two solutions. They’ve dropped the ball on one, repeatedly. Now it’s time for the other. It’s not our job to help either; they elected him democratically, we can’t and they told us to keep our nose out of it before 2016.

Sooner or later the good folks need to unite, step up and do something. Yes, it’ll involve hardship, for many. Yes, it’s easy for us to say but we’d do something about this if and when it comes to us. This is why voting is important. But we are under no obligation to separate good Americans from bad ones in this…it’s a collective responsibility as far as outsiders are concerned.

We have grown up…it’s the US that needs to grow up and their people take their national duty seriously. As a collective.

It’s already finding our way to us, thanks to the US. They’re already inundating us with their incessant political garbage, brought to us by their conservative PACs. I note Americans are quick to call that our problem as well, on top of asking for asylum.

All this is why we are sick to death of them and their shit.

[–] Alkali@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

The US has utilized systemic racism to train it's population from childhood to hate and fear each other. We aren't able to work together because we have been programmed not to.

So, how would I organize a general strike with fascists who believe the current process is great, or are in such a compromised position (by design) that striking could literally kill them?

Your advice is like telling someone who is homeless to get a job.

Based on your argument, it's not your job to do anything. Agreed. Hate and don't support the US... That might help change opinions. If you want us to continue to resist... Yeah, plenty of people do and have. But telling people to essentially kill themselves because "it's the right thing to do" is kinda some bullshit. About 40% of our nations population are hateful fascists. This is an issue that has built up over generations. Its going to take a lot more thank just trying to organize a general strike to fix it.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Lol the "WhY aReN't ThEy dOinG aNyThInG tO StOp It" people never, ever have an answer to a reasoned response like this.

They also never notice the identical moves being made in their own governments. Like the afd in Germany of all places.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago

No, those people never have an answer to when it's them that should be doing something.

Go to any thread about Ukraine, it's why aren't Russians doing anything to stop it. Same with Israel, same with Mexico (why are they leaving instead of fixing their country?), etc.

In this particular case the US is about to become the center of the new bad guys of WW3, and Americans are, in fact, not doing enough to stop it.

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