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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 65 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Hey a lot of Americans hate America because of Trump, too.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 months ago

I’d also say most of the world hates America because of Trump. He’s a global parasite.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I hated America before it was cool to hate America.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to say the same, but it's been cool to hate America longer than I've been alive where I'm from.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The fact that we (allied democracies) can't trust USA anymore became clear to me under George W. Bush first term as President.
So I'd say about 21 years ago.

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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

I am starting to hate it because of America's tepid reaction to Trump

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago

If America saw what America was doing to America then America would invade America and liberate America.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago
  1. not enough people

  2. not enough hate

(See 2024)

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 49 points 2 months ago (12 children)

One thing that's really frustrating is that in other countries where democracy is in danger you see huge protests in the streets.

Hong Kong protests

Hungary protests

France protests

That gives the distinct impression that even if the average American doesn't support what Trump is doing, they don't really oppose it enough to bother shutting down the country.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not surprising at all. Look at how many convinced themselves to stay home the one time they couldve prevented this shitstorm.

[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

And those non-voters are still patting each other's backs.

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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Our society has been designed so that taking even an hour off to vote or protest means no food on the table.

Could that with the critical mass who don't give a shit and, well, yeah, no movement.

General strike just cannot happen because of that, so violent revolution is the only next step but even that is unlikely.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago

Nah, it will happen. All it takes is a spark when tensions are high enough (they aren't yet).

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[–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 8 points 2 months ago (7 children)

We did have huge protests in multiple cities. I'm not sure why you expect them to result in immediate change when that typically takes years to happen. Hungary was under Orban for almost 20 years and they didn't even force him out with a protest. Serbia hasn't changed. Slovakia hasn't changed. The list goes on.

It doesn't happen overnight or over a week. You're basically demanding that we overthrow the government because we didn't like the election results and it shouldn't be surprising that people aren't ready to do that. It takes a lot more than what Trump's done to get people to that point.

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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Which is why we hate the entire US, not just tRump.

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[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I dont think most americans know whats happening. It’ll be way too late when they wake up

[–] Tiral@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you over estimate Americans giving a crap.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago

They'll give a crap when it affects them personally.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I've been wondering this myself.

I'm some sort of weirdo who likes solar panels and EV's and thinks people should be allowed to be people no matter the color of their skin or the plumbing in their pants, which makes me some sort of commie hippie freak because I live in rural Oklahoma.

And there seems to be a lot of effort aimed at keeping people in this deep red state unaware of all that is happening, although gas prices are higher than normal here (I saw $3.79/gal this morning I think) amd groceries are getting expensive. But none of this is really mentioned. As far as the local news is concerned, there is no war in Iran, Trump has everything handled, and all is well. And a great many people here, especially old people, believe it all because that is all they see.

It's no excuse.

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 19 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Canada hasn't been making military alliances and trade deals with every other country for the last year for nothing. They also didn't just recall their military for nothing either. Canada's fortifying itself in plain sight and the trump admin are too stupid to notice.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did we recall our troopies? I wasn't even aware of that.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

Yes, we announced this week we're winding down a lot of overseas operations and will be focusing on domestic defense operations.

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's not just Trump. It's the Tea Party and Bush, too. We've spent the last quarter century looking over our shoulder waiting for the next catastrophe that Americans will cause and we're sick of it.

[–] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Honestly I’m sick of American arrogance too, the American empire should balkanize and die

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As a Canadian, it's Trump

...AND his supporters

...AND you can throw in Christofascists

...AND Christian fundamentalists.

So since Westboro for me, personally.

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[–] Murse@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Murican here. If we're going to learn from our fuck around phase, the find out phase needs to hurt.

Like an alcoholic waking up to a hangover from hell and vowing to never let that happen again, that hangover could be the best thing that's ever happened to the addict.

The more our president throws his tantrums, the more we should be shunned, isolated, and ignored by the rest of the planet. Politically and financially.

To the non-muricans here, sorry for being such a shitty neighbor. I look forward to earning back your respect - hopefully that day comes soon, but I'm not holding my breath.

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

How can there be there earning back respect? The US is a two party system, so even if there's a good president a few years later the next bozo comes around drives things back to shit again.

Trump has managed to terminally damage transatlantic relationships, this will result in a new world order in the long run. Over here in the EU thinking about sovereignty is suddenly a thing, getting independent of others.

There can be trade with the US in the future, but no trust anymore. Interestingly the long term view is viewing the US a lot like China, someone whom you cooperate with economically but do not trust on a political level.

Of course a less shitty period in governance would ease things a bit over, but there's no way the next guy like Trump will grab power in 10 years or so. The American political system is built in a way that it just flip-flops between the big parties. IMO the population and elections are just a minor side function of this.

As fucked up as out system is over here, I'm fucking happy we have a parliament and not "winner takes it all". At least it feels a bit like voters have a bit of influence.

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[–] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 9 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Obama had the power to nationalize the banks and arrest the people who engineered the crisis. But instead let them go.

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[–] HaroldBaws@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 2 months ago

Was this still a question? I thought that ship sailed long ago, with everyone but Israel.

Ah, who am I kidding, Israel hates us, too.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 7 points 2 months ago
[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think this is news. I don't think anyone was waiting for a verdict. Since we're just throwing opinions out there instead of facts what about this one? "Canadians Hate Thalidomide Because of the Birth Defects". I know, I know, not as current, but still not news!

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[–] stevles@aussie.zone 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Not a single country on Earth that likes the US. Only the US claims to like the US, and even then it’s more propaganda fuel than anything.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Americans also hate America thanks to Trump.

Yeah, I can confirm this

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago

everyone hates america.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You hate the same people we hate, Canada. Those people are broken, ignorant assholes before they are Americans. Their bullshit ruins the world for all of us.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (16 children)

So like, do something about it maybe?

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Really quick, list what you think civilized, nonmilitary, individual folks with families should do against a 50 year systemic plan, funded with trillions and led by literal psychopaths fixed on destabilizing democracy to rebuild a fascist autocracy in their own image? Every day is a real internal struggle of what to do next. Many of us have spent decades opposing in every way typical folks can, bleeding, arrest, life threatening opposition face to face with swat teams as unarmed, untrained every day people.

Your response is not helpful. It trivializes one of the largest issues in the history of civilation with no clear solution ahead.

The point of my response is that WE are not opposed, so don't try to make the good folks into opponents. Grow up, see the bigger picture and support. Offer solutions and plan on what your personal line will be when this all finds it's way to you.

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[–] Bluedragon012@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Could say sorry, but that won't cut it. I just hope you see there are people here in the us that want all of maga leadership and billionaires to be dead and reject them. We just can't convince others. It has to be in thier face because a huge chunk are in auto pilot. I will keep fighting, however I can.

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