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Unfortunately Graphene has a reason for this, Pixels are (for now) the only phones with the HW security requirements list Graphene has, they're just the most secure (HW wise) phones on the market.
They also share your sentiment, but realistically they have to work with what exists, not what is fantasy. They are taking steps with Moto to get off of that dependency however and that phone should be just as secure (where their current ones lack something on the list.)
If you just want to get away from google, try LineageOS, if you need it to be secure then you're just as stuck as Graphene is, I'm afraid.
This sums up perfectly what I think about it, thanks.
Why all the elitism hurrdurr, the topic is frustrating enough to keep up with
They used to have a saying about that: if wishes were horses, every beggar would ride. Some haven't gotten the memo, and prefer to bitterly complain to bystanders instead.