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Some people simply can't afford to buy an extra phone, not even a used one. And some people don't even have a Pixel option in their market.
But if you think money and phones simply grow out of trees in all of the places of the world that the US has fucked, maybe it's you who needs your head examined.
Unfortunately Graphene has a reason for this, Pixels are (for now) the only phones with the HW security requirements list Graphene has, they're just the most secure (HW wise) phones on the market.
They also share your sentiment, but realistically they have to work with what exists, not what is fantasy. They are taking steps with Moto to get off of that dependency however and that phone should be just as secure (where their current ones lack something on the list.)
If you just want to get away from google, try LineageOS, if you need it to be secure then you're just as stuck as Graphene is, I'm afraid.
This sums up perfectly what I think about it, thanks.
Why all the elitism hurrdurr, the topic is frustrating enough to keep up with
They used to have a saying about that: if wishes were horses, every beggar would ride. Some haven't gotten the memo, and prefer to bitterly complain to bystanders instead.
If you don't have the money for a used Pixel nor can DIY a secure libreboot used Thinkpad you need to go lowtech.
If you can't or won't you're simply screwed. Try finding a lamp with a helpful genie, because the universe sure as hell won't accomodate your wishes.