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Whenever a parent is seen treating their kid like shit, and they or someone responds with, "Do you have a kid?" it's such a braindead argument. (sopuli.xyz)

submitted 3 days ago by DarkMayhemXIII@sopuli.xyz to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

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You see this all the time on YouTube. One mom in Walmart was neglecting her son. They were in a freezer aisle, and the kid literally just had a diaper on, and that was it. When people called her out, the mom said, "Do you have a kid?" Then, recently, a mom was seen roughly slamming her baby into a stroller, hurting the kid. When someone called her out, the husband asked, "Do you have a kid?"

This is the most braindead argument I have ever heard in my life because what "Do you have a kid?" means is, "If you don't have a kid, then you don't have the right to speak on this situation," and that is beyond stupid. Just because you don't have experience in a certain subject doesn't mean you can't have opinions, and experience doesn't negate common damn sense and common baseline, bare-minimum morals.

Just because you don't have a kid doesn't mean people without kids can't say, "Hey, abusing your kid and neglecting them is wrong." That's common sense. It would be like someone severely abusing their girlfriend—like, horrible abuse—and then someone says, "Hey, that's wrong," and that person responds, "Are you in a relationship?" How dumb is that?

You could ask a 25-year-old virgin who's never been in a relationship before, and even they know—and they can say—"Hey, abusing your partner is wrong." A 5-year-old toddler knows abuse and treating people like shit is wrong, so that argument is so dumb.

And what makes it worse is that people who say this are trying to defend bad parenting or abusive parenting instead of calling out bad behavior. Again, if we are using this argument, then no one can have an opinion on anything. A man beats his wife? If you've never been married, you can't speak on it, then I guess you just have to stay quiet about it. You've never been to war? No? Then don't have an opinion on the Iran war. "Have you ever been a police officer?" No? Then don't speak on police brutality.

Like, really? People who use this argument should take their own advice and not give their opinion on any issue or world issue, then.

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[–] limdaepl@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not defending bad parenting and child abuse but

"If you don't have a kid, then you don't have the right to speak on this situation,"

I think you are misunderstanding the argument. It’s not that non-parents don’t have the right to speak, but that they lack the experience to judge the situation.

Not saying this is a valid argument in the situations you described, those are clearly wrong and you don’t need kids to know this, but that’s where they’re coming from.

A milder example would be non-parents judging parents for letting their kids watch TV for extended periods of time, when they’ve don’t know the struggle of having to baby-sit a toddler 24/7.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Bang on. 👌 The do you have a kid argument is stupid in the context of those things described in this post obviously, because they are objectively wrong, but it can be a very valid question in other situations.