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[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Feels like the innovative part of google does not exist any more.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Web search was the last big innovative thing they did. The other good shit since was bought up, lol, easier to buy than innovative. Capitalists hate competing because they might lose.

[–] Markaos@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What about "Attention Is A You Need", the white paper that kick-started the whole generative AI and LLM thing? OpenAI's GPT models are built off of that architecture, like pretty much everything that came after it.

Like sure, modern Google is notoriously bad at building the actual end products, but it publishes a lot of research and some of it pushes others forward quite a lot.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The LLM page was published in 2019 right? 7 years ago!

[–] Markaos@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago

2017, actually. But the search engine (supposedly the last innovation according to the previous comment) has seen most of its leaps forward in late 90s to early 2000s, which is a lot earlier.

Also it's pretty hard to find a more clear example of Google sharing well done research than the white paper that started the current AI bubble. But they do publish a lot of stuff.

[–] no_name_dev_from_hell@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] EliteCloneMike@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Yea, and the main discovery being transformers (GPT predecessor). That allowed for the groundbreaking technology of AlphaFold to come into being, for which a Nobel prize was awarded to Demis Hassabis and John Jumper (who just left Google DeepMind to join Anthropic).

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Okay my bad, thx.

[–] ragingHungryPanda@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They've actually been doing a lot of innovative research around AI, they just done hype it up like companies that NEED AI to work for their business. Their Alpha fold was revolutionary for gene folding, for example. it's like 98ish percent accurate for a fraction of the compute time.

Now, as far as their customer products go, yeah, we haven't seen much lately, but I think their research arm is still doing a lot and they're publishing a lot of papers.

[–] EliteCloneMike@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Let me start off by saying I think Google should be broken up. I really don’t like that company. But I and glad that the publicized research that they have done has lead to benefits for humanity. Like they discovered the underlying technology behind GPTs, being transformers back in 2017. And then an extension on that being AlphaFold. I think those applications are great, like some others for the use of AI. I don’t think that using AI to call people criminals and lock them out of their account is a good use of the technology, and then not budging when those people are found innocent (there are many news articles on that topic). Google needs to be broken up and their search made into a public utility.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dude alphafold just happened what are you smoking

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In terms of research that is very little time.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dude you could just admit you were wrong, it happens.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I did think it was sooner but I honestly don't think that's that long ago for such a big breakthrough, I dunno.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

In that I think you are both correct, it's quite new, but in computer stuff it's ages IMO.

Cheers