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We have /c/fuckcars but no /c/fuckplanes. Yet a lot of the same arguments apply. They cause air pollution (roughly double the amount per km traveled), noise pollution and they (airports) take up a lot of space near dense living areas. Sure, some places can practically only be visited by plane, just like some places can practically only be visited by car. But people don't consider not having your holiday that far away or giving pushback on a busines trip that should have been an online meeting. Besides work-from-home being encouraged, work-from-home-country should be too.

Cars need to be discouraged in favor of busses, trams and trains. Planes nees to be discouraged in favor of high-speed trains, staycations and hopefully new alternatives like modern sailboats or electric planes.

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[–] metalsd@eviltoast.org 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Planes offer transportation that is unmatched by other means. Also most humans don't travel by plane and the one who do are not regular flyers as in every day or every week like rape transportation. There are very few people in the pamner wh ok travel by plane all the time. Maybe those people should reconsider their choices as commercial airlines have democratized to a degree the ability for the masses to travel instead of just being a luxury just for the rich and ultra rich. The Elons of the world should definitely travel less by plane or plain out disappear from society but long distance travel by plane I think is a marvelous thing of the modern era and their impact on pollution is minor in comparison to cars. Maybe r restricting plane travel to big planes moving lots of people over hundred or thousands of small plains with few people aboard that coud have taken a regular transportation plane

[–] Robin@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes, France already banned short flights on routes that have similar train service. More counties should do that and over time increase the restrictions

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 4 points 2 days ago

And, also, they should be building more high speed rail service -- both to increase capacity to match that increase in demand, and to add more routes where the train can replace flying.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] metalsd@eviltoast.org 1 points 2 days ago

Well it was a typo but I'd believe that with the knowledge we have of Epstein perhaps most wasteful plane travel is indeed rape transportation...