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[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

When you are older you will struggle to revisit that same shared culture by those using intellectual property legalities to paywall your soul.

Again, you are fully entitled and within you legal right to sing those songs to your heart's content to relive the glory days; that does not mean that you are entitled to a high fidelity recording of the original work in perpetuity simply because you paid to listen to it once at a club...

[–] Merman_Gothique@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, so, 50 years later, when you can barely remember the lyrics, you drift from said culture unless you can you know, listen and refresh your memory. That is my entire point. Intellectual property rights paywall culture, and not in a healthy way.

We are currently living in a world with an absolutely fractured culture where very few feel connected to anyone. This is a contributing factor.

I don't misunderstand what you are saying, but the results are all around us for taking this approach and are only going to get worse as we atomize more.

[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How would you have maintained your memory of that song and culture 500 years ago? What stops you from doing the same thing now?

Any problem you describe is the result of individual choices, not technology or IP law.

If anything, IP law maintains the integrity and cultural significance of creation by not allowing rampant capitalist exploitation...

[–] Merman_Gothique@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

500 years ago people would get together in the same space and would sing it together. We still have that in pockets, but that isn't how it is done now.

IP law absolutely does not maintain integrity or cultural significance. You are out of your mind if you think that it is not enabling rampant capitalist exploitation. It has literally given a handful of companies complete power over all of it.

[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are out of your mind if you think that it is not enabling rampant capitalist exploitation. It has literally given a handful of companies complete power over all of it.

Sounds like your problem is with artists selling their IP to corporations... And frankly with yourself for not creating more, or engaging in communal practice.

Stop blaming some big bad for your own lack of social engagement.

[–] Merman_Gothique@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What does social engagement have to do with any of this? We are talking about ownership of culture.

Why are you defending oligarchy of culture? You have made some amazing leaps in logic here that are not even remotely based in the objective.

[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Oligarchy has nothing to do with you choosing not to share in song with your neighbors. You're making shitty excuses for your laziness.

[–] Merman_Gothique@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Where did I ever say I was choosing to not share a song with my neighbors? Who are you arguing with?

[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

500 years ago people would get together in the same space and would sing it together. We still have that in pockets, but that isn't how it is done now.

You relying on the commercial accessibility to music to capture your history and culture is 100% a "you" problem. No one is making you do that.

[–] Merman_Gothique@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I am really struggling here to see where I said that I was choosing not to share a song with my neighbors in there. Why pivot to an entirely different point?

This is a societal issue, not an individual one.

[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Keep struggling then.

It's not my responsibility to explain the implications behind your own words. Learn to communicate more effectively.

[–] Merman_Gothique@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

My ability to communicate isn't the issue here. You're either trolling or in this conversation in a dishonest capacity. The points you are trying to counter are not things I have even put forth.

[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, so, 50 years later, when you can barely remember the lyrics, you drift from said culture unless you can you know, listen and refresh your memory. That is my entire point. Intellectual property rights paywall culture...

If your "culture" and ability to remember your youth is contingent upon songs being available on streaming services that's not a problem you can blame on publishers.

Without publishers, who do you imagine would be distributing this music in 50 years when the bands in question are broken up, destitute, or dead? What's the oldest independently published music you have access to right now?

[–] Merman_Gothique@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurrian_songs

Do you actually think publishers are necessary for music in the age of digital file transfer? Pirates have been managing without them for quite some time. There are artists who publish straight to the internet and do not use publishers. They are an obsolete institution.