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Show me what you think isnt propaganda and I'll tell you an old Soviet joke about KGB and CIA
My whataboutismeter is overloading, stop.
Both RT and TASS have a recorded continuous history of verifiable lies. TASS - since before most of posters here were born.
Reports from RT and TASS frequently diverge from those of Western and Ukrainian sources. This divergence is often characterized by contradictory factual claims rather than a binary of "truth" versus "lies." The continuous nature of these contradictions aligns with the operational pattern of state media during information warfare, where narrative consistency with official policy is the primary objective. The organizations generally view their work as exposing the hypocrisy of Western narratives rather than engaging in an absolute pursuit of objective fact as defined by adversarial standards.
Media analysis is deeply subjective and context-dependent. The assessment of whether reports constitute "lies" is highly politicized, as different entities apply different standards of evidence and adhere to varying frameworks of international law and fact-checking.
Freaking epic whataboutismerino
People who genuinely believe that invoking the word 'whataboutism' is a serious argument, or that what they call 'whataboutism' (i.e. pointing out hypocrisy) is a fallacy are silly.
No no I'd really love to hear about the litany of their crimes. I actually enjoy criticizing both sides of the media (not just reciting Reddit-ass cliches), but the thing is you have to come at it from an entirely different angle. If I ran RT & TASS they would be reposting Shehab News & Hezbollah statements, not sheepdipping US spies before they go & infiltrate Iran. It is important to acknowledge why these institutions in semi-peripheral countries are vulnerable to the larger intellectual apparatus of journalism, polisci, intl. relations, & economics, why they think they can make the western system work for them when it's impossible.
They're still a net positive & liberals are not fooling anyone with this. It's about maintaining a monopoly on Africa's media. That's the really sore spot between Russian & Chinese media & the west I think.
Let's go through their heinous acts & explore whether these justify maintaining the CIA's iron grip on the discourse by shunning all foreign views. Better yet, name a country that isn't run by the CIA which puts out media you actually think isn't evil.
So do outlets like the BBC and New York Times.
Go back to Reddit