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When you look at annual statistics of dog bite fatalities, pit bulls aren't just the #1 cause of dog bite deaths, they account for more deaths than all dog breeds COMBINED.
According to Wikipedia (I understand the irony here) dogsbite dot org has been accused of publishing misleading and inaccurate information. However, pit bulls are terriers and terriers don't let go when they bite. Most terriers are small ratting dogs where this doesn't matter so much.
When I was bit by a pit, I was in a fight with his uh, human. The dude was being a dick. The dog looked at me, looked at his "owner" and then lunged at me. I put up my left arm to block my face, thats where he caught me, in my upper arm. The guy jumpped on the dog, started punching it in the head (this guy was a complete moron) and he wouldnt let go.
I played dead. It was isntict, I dont know. After what felt like enterity, I just, took out a deep sigh, pushed all the air from me, went limp. the dog let go, the guy whos dog it was threw him in the bathroom and locked him in there, and I went to the hospital.
My neighbors had a pit that hated other dogs. My sister brought her dog over and it escaped the backyard and jumped through an empty screen door to attack her. I was right there on the porch though and got the dog by the collar. As soon as I got it away from my sister's dog, it was wagging tail and happy face. Pit bulls are capable of intense focus when they have identified "prey." Most dog owners are not equipped to deal with the reality of training a dog like that. Luckily I only got grazed in that altercation.
I worked with a lady who had an Akita that did this - she got a call at work one day that her dog had attacked the neighbor's dog. Had busted through the screen door, jumped OVER the pool, busted through the pool screen, jumped over the fence, and attacked the neighbor's dog, because she could see it in the neighbor's yard.
It’s sort of a plus … obviously not in your scenario …. I believe pitbull breeds tend to be one of the protective and loyal breeds, and they do have a very strong bite. I have no worries about my pit bull with my kids but if you frighten her around them you’ll see her instantly change from a cuddle bug to on guard against hell and its minions
Unfortunately they’re sometimes loyal and protective to people who don’t deserve them
Dogsbite.org is super diligent about showing the supporting evidence. For example, the last complete year they have is 2019:
https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatality-citations-2019.php
Each death marked with multiple citations.
Wow, I can’t believe how many women in Joshua Tree were attacked by four pit bulls on that one day in January
read any of their about us/other similar links and their bias couldnt be more obvious.
especially funny is the page the dedicated towards complaining about how they're the target of a misinformation campaign.
https://blog.dogsbite.org/2022/03/humane-groups-leveling-fake-racism-to-force-pit-bull-agenda-on-insurance.html
majority of studies they link to don't list breed information at all (because it's rarely if ever recorded at hospitals).
Go down the list of articles documenting people killed in 2019 and show me where the bias is.
It's cool, I'll wait...
I think this graphic should also be taking into account the number of owned dogs by breed, kinda like per capita. Because what if almost everyone owns pit bulls, and all the others are just outliers, then yeah, most attacks are by pit bulls because there’s more of them.
In my opinion, this would probably actually make pits look even worse, but whatever end result would actually be more representative of real data
A lot of mixed breeds are labeled as “pit bulls” which can skew the data as well. There’s several different types of “pit bulls” like American Staffordshire Terrier.
And as another commenter pointed out, this graph is coming from a biased source.
i have seen posts on other platforms of people being obsessed with the GSD, but they dont want to deal with the high energy of the breed, so they try to create new 'mixes with them to make them mellow and call it a "certified breed".
Even if pit bulls are a minority of the population and the majority of attacks that doesn't mean they're aggressive, it shows there's a correlation, but not a causation link. Read my other reply, but in short, this is the same argument racists assholes use to say black people are aggressive, because they're a minority of the population but are the majority of homicide offenders.
Dude, you've spent a long time arguing from a point of view that fear of pitbulls is equivalent to racism.
Doing this is trivialising racism and painting a breed bred for agression and fighting as innocent victims of oppression.
It's bogus and offensive and trivialises racism. Stop it.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
And I suppose you also think that in this comment I'm trivialising the struggles of pit bulls by comparing them to apples.
Bad logic is bad logic, whether applied to dogs, humans, apples or whatever. The fact that you can instinctively understand the argument is wrong when applied to people is the exact reason I used that, so people would understand it's a bad argument that proves nothing.
Racism is racism, whether it's direct and obvious or just casually equating ethnic minorities to the most feared "dangerous" dogs whilst claiming that you're "just explaining logical errors".
No, you don't get to pretend you didn't make an awful and offensive analogy (based on your irrational belief that the pitbulls are falsely maligned).
If the logic is as flawed as you claim, there must be hundreds of analogies you can draw that aren't racist and don't equate black people in the USA with pitbulls.
There might be, but I've only ever heard "X is a minority yet causes the majority of fatalities" used for two Xs, it's bad logic in both cases, it would be bad logic in any other case too, feel free to find me another example of that logic that people instinctively understand it's wrong and I'll use that next time.
Just fucking stop the racism.
It's not my job to write your reality denying nonsense for you.
If your one and only recourse is to call black people violent dogs, you're the one whose logical thinking is broken.
STOP with the racist crap.
At no point in my reply did I mention race, I said the argument of "X is a minority, yet causes the majority of fatalities, therefore X is dangerous" is a bad argument. That is the whole of my point.
Two possibilities exist: Either you think it's a good argument argument, or you don't.
Which is it? Do you think the argument "X is a minority yet causes the majority of fatalities, therefore X is dangerous" is a good argument?
I think you're a closet racist who won't give up comparing black people to violent dogs even when asked not to, and that you like to hide behind generalities.
Three possibilities exist:
I thought it was option 1 at first. It isn't.
The way you're behaving reveals to me that it was your intent all along to make this false equivalence because you thought it was a cool own-the-libs arguing position. If that really isn't you, I beg of you, take a step back and reconsider how you're communicating.
I have at no point compared black people to dogs, or even mentioned anything related to race beyond a comparison of statistical facts to showcase how ridiculous the argument is. You're creating a Straw man to attack and deflecting my question, so we'll keep going in circles forever, because answering a straight yes or no would compromise you.
Read everything that I posted so far and you will realize the entire time what I'm saying is "a small subgroup causing the most fatalities, therefore subgroup aggressive" is a bad argument. That is the whole of what I'm saying, and you haven't replied whether you think that is a good or a bad argument. The reason why you haven't done so is simple:
If you say it's a bad argument you're agreeing with me, therefore no reply is needed.
If you say it's a good argument then you're agreeing with any racist asshole who uses the same argument applied to people, and you should take a long hard look at yourself to see whether that's the kind of peraon you want to be. And honestly, I don't want to keep talking to anyone who thinks like this as they have been so brainwashed they won't get convinced by a random person online.
In reality I'm fairly confident you want the argument to apply to dogs but not to people, and that's just not how logic works. Facts are facts, you can't disagree with them, the conclusion from those facts is logic, and that can be flawed (as is for the case of the proof of aggressive behavior). So when confronted with the fact that you're defending a logic argument that can be made about people, instead of thinking "huh, I guess it's a bad argument" you go "I'm not racist, you're racist", that is called deflection. So you attack a Straw man argument that I'm comparing people to dogs so that you don't have to admit that your prejudice against pitbulls made you agree with an undefendable racist argument. Still the conclusion is the same, there's no reason to reply to someone who's being fallacious at best and making bad faith arguments at worst. If you honestly expect any answer from me your reply should clearly state whether you consider the "X is a small subgroup yet causes the majority of fatalities, therefore X is dangerous" a good argument.
"I'm not being racist, but..." - you.
The way you’re behaving reveals to me that it was your intent all along to make this false equivalence between black Americans and aggressive, child-killing dogs, because you thought all along it was a cool own-the-libs arguing position.