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I utterly love my Razr, it folds up to protect the main screen and fits in a pocket so much better than some skinny long thing that I'm worried about creasing into inoperability, and I still get the screen realestate of a non-flip phone.
I have no idea why people hate on flip phones so hard. I'd be pissed if they stopped making them because everyone that doesn't have one likes to shit on them so nobody tries them.
But that's what killing the screen
But it's not though? Early generations, sure. But we're at the point now where dropping a folded phone really does not have much of a difference in chance of breaking in than dropping a regular candybar phone.
You're right in that technically it causes wear. In that regard, I suppose the fold mechanism would fail eventually. So it's not going to be your daily driver for the next 10 years. But no phone is. Modern folding phones absolutely do well for the normal life of a phone (4-5 years maybe??).
Where credit is due, I think batteries have improved. I've noticed that the battery health no longer starts dropping fast after a year and a half (which was like a standard for me). When I got my phone, the battery health was already at 98%. I don't know why and I didn't really care as I got thru the days without needing to charge extra. After 2.5 years, the health is at 95% and I'm still not seeing noticeable degradation. Then again, I use battery health management system (smart charging) which wasn't a thing on older phones, maybe that's the reason
My Z Flip 6 died after a year even though I babied that thing. The screen would freeze or fail to turn on unless you warmed up the entire phone. I tried the press-to-reseat-the-cable trick. Nothing worked. Samsung wanted to charge me $400 to repair the screen because it was a month out of warranty.
This is why I have trust issues.
That is absolutely fair and valid. Lemons do happen. I just think they aren't nearly as common as people fear.
I've had mine for 3 years and it's a little blurry at the fold. My wife's is way better than mine but she uses hers less. I've not seen this catastrophic screen issues I've heard about.
I only knew of one person and hers was a goner in half a year, but she somehow managed to switch phones under warranty (didn't know you can do that) instead of repairing. That being said, I have OnePlus Open (foldable phone), but it's not the main screen that's constantly gets bent which is the sus part to me. I open it at best 3-4 times a day when I need the large screen, not every time I need to use it. Mine is 2.5 years old, going strong. Some months ago I was in a phone shop waiting in line to buy a HDMI adapter for it and there was this lady arguing with the clerk about why can't she submit her flip for warranty if it's not her fault. 3 years actually blows my mind
The first generations had weak hinges, but those were solved several generations ago. I have no idea what you think is killing screens.
Foldable fatigue. I forgot the technical term. Every foldable is tested for how many times it can fold before fatigue starts setting in, resulting in micro cracks/tears and eventually broken screen. I have no clue about flip, but I think the latest fold was rated at 500k flips and mine is ratee at 1m flips, but it still sounds like the weak part to me.
It'll die eventually, sure. But the numbers you quote are ridiculously high, it'll take several decades to get there. So that seems like a non-issue to me.
I know, but each time you go to a foldable subreddit, you can almost certainly find people showing their broken screens. The numbers are just for folding in perfect conditions. It is the weak part, still. No hard glass cover, hardly water resistant, weak dust resistance, etc. I accidentally once folded my screen with a key inside (as I was folding at the same time as sliding into the pocket that had a key in it) and only noticed few minutes later. Survived, but that would not be a worry at all with non-foldable.
Sure, but there are tons of people walking around with cracked screens on slab phones too. The screen is always the weakest part. What would be noticeable is if screens on foldables failed way more than on slab phones, but I haven't seen any evidence to support that. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the other way around: slabs break their screens far more when they get dropped because the screen isn't protected on the inside like a foldable does.
I'd love to have one, but unfortunately none of them support custom Roms AFAIK.
Nope, unfortunately. But Motorola is supposed to be moving to using GOS for their future phones, I'm hoping they might be convinced to release the hardware trees for the older phones so they can be backported.
GOS won't come to the older ones due to the lack of a Titan-like security chip, but itd be nice to see either a newer RAZR with support, or the old one just getting Lineage or something.