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When was that debunked? How? If you genuinely think misogyny and misogynoir weren't part of why Hillary and Kamala lost then I've got a bridge to sell you.
What you're missing is that even racists and misogynists will vote for women or minorities if they say the right talking points. Just look at all the pick-mes on the fascist side. This argument is always trotted out by "centrists" against progressives, but the centrists love to run women and minorities, act like that makes them progressive, and blame racism/misogyny when they lose for being uninspiring empty suits. I'm sick of the hypocrisy.
That's not what I'm missing. That's not what I'm saying. You're also ignoring that racists and sexists who otherwise agree with the talking points will refuse to vote for women or minorities, but that's neither here nor there. Bro said definitively that racism and sexism had nothing whatsoever to do with Hillary and Kamala losing. Considering the wildly racist and sexist history and culture of the US, I'm saying that's fuckin nonsense. Is it the only or even the main reason they lost? No probably not. Did it have an influence? Abso-fuckin-lutely. Saying anything else is naive or disingenuous.
Go ahead and sell me that bridge because there is a complete and total lack of evidence to support the claim. Can't really prove a counterfactual. Others made the claim she lost because of this; when asked for evidence, they always come up short.
Counterpoints:
Biden polled worse than Harris at the end. (White Guy polling worse than Black Woman). Hence the switch in the first place, even Biden agreed!
Michelle Obama has always polled higher than anyone against Trump (Black Woman polling better than White Guy).
Oh so you're just operating under the assumption that nobody who would otherwise vote for a democrat is sexist or racist in one of the most overtly provably sexist and racist countries on earth. But go ahead and claim that racism and misogyny aren't incredibly relevant factors in every election. There are more undecided/moderate/non voters that are racist and misogynistic than there are republicans. It's fucking stupid to pretend that wasn't a factor. Don't be fucking stupid.
Still no evidence, and an increased propensity for aggression and ad hominems substituting said total lack of evidence, I see. Lots of fingers-in-ear denial and deflection as well.
I win.
Like a pigeon playing chess you knock over the pieces, shit all over the board and think you won. Good job pigeon.
hahah buddy, I checkmated you two comments ago; you just haven't realized it yet.
Pee-wee chess, though, I get it.
You've got serious "racism was solved until Obama" energy. Par for the course with the likes of you.
There you go with the fallacies again... What is this, Pokemon of fallacies? Trying to catch 'em all or something?
Well you've caught strawman.
You're operating under the fallacy that every single racist and sexist in the US already and exclusively vote republican. That's fuckin stupid.
Not fallacy; seems pretty on-point. Bigots coalesce around far-right extremism, and thus MAGA. That logically tracks.
Or what, you think blue-haired hippies preaching solidarity are dyed-in-the-wool bigots or something, lol?
By all means, I'm waiting for your evidence of where all these bigots are at that aren't core maga!
Prove it.