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[–] fx242@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I usually reply to that with: "And if you love capitalism that much why don't you move to the US instead?"

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That still doesn't answer the question.

I live in the United States, and I love my country.

The fact is that, as far as I'm aware, there has never been a single socialist country that has been broadly successful, and I don't think there ever will be. So answer the question.

You say you support socialism, but you choose to live in a country that isn't socialist because it's prosperous, stable, and safe. If socialism is the superior system, why wouldn't you want to live in a country that actually practices it?

Why do you like socialism so much? Have you ever lived in a socialist country? Have you even visited one? Can you point to a socialist country, either current or historical, that you would willingly move to?

It seems like you're just repeating things you've read on Lemmy or elsewhere on the internet. You don't appear to understand what socialism actually is, how it functions, or how it differs from social democracy or democratic socialism. You keep calling welfare programs "socialism," when they aren't.

Answer the fucking question, what country would you move to that is currently socialist or has been socialist in the past?

And don't you even dare deflect to the fact that I live in America and that you think it's a terrible country? Don't even try it. It's not going to work.

[–] fx242@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you know that most successful countries in the world are social-democracies right? Like most of Europe. You don't need to go full communist or follow the red party book to incorporate the good bits of modern social-democratic practices to counter bad capitalism abuse. Im not a communist or "socialist" btw (assuming the typical American biased understand of those terms).

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Yes. Some of the most successful countries on earth are social democracy's which has nothing to do with socialism.

I encounter us problem on Lemmy all the time. ALL THE TIME! I'll leave you with my regular disclaimer.

Socialism refers to collective ownership of the means of production. Social democracy/democratic socialism refers to a capitalist market economy supplemented by welfare programs, labor protections, and public services. The two terms are not interchangeable despite frequent misuse on the internet. You are describing and advocating for social democracy/democratic socialism not socialism.

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