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[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 45 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I really dislike this dumbass meme and it just gets worse the longer it's been around. Letting rednecks have guns creates a lot of our problems. Letting Christians be Christians creates a lot of our problems. America is about freedom? Tell that to Black people. Tell that to immigrants. Shit, tell that to people who aren't immigrants but who are having their citizenship challenged because they're the wrong shade. Tell that to women and trans people who need healthcare. America is about freedom for some and not for others, and this meme is for the some.

[–] defrostedLasagna4921@piefed.zip 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think the meme's not so much about how it actually is in reality, but more like how we think it should be like/if it was the "ideal" situation. That's at least how I interpreted it.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Rednecks hanging black people from trees is as American as apple pie! Every one ought to have a little bit of freedom (may vary according to location).

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

America used concentration camps to move natives off their land. What Germany did with the Jewish people during the Holocaust is EXACTLY what America did with its native population, albeit with less advanced technology. The only difference is Germany did their genocide after the invention of photography and radio.

People didn't move to America for the freedom to practice any religion, they moved here for the freedom to practice what they believe was _the correct religion. Early Americans puritians had no expectation of practicing whatever religion they wanted. They were called puritans because the King's reformed Christianity wasn't Christian enough.

The reality is that the things in this meme are propaganda. What America is doing now is more inline with its history than anything in this meme.

The worst part is, this isn't even the first society to do something like this. Caesar's Rome enacted genocide in Gual, and the British empire is often likened to "slow nazis" for all of the genocide they caused. There's the Armenian genocide, and the various genocides associated with the expansion and contraction of the USSR. Hell, the primary ethnic group targeted during the Holocaust are enacting genocide against Palestinians now. This brutality and authoritarianism is, like it or not, a part of humanity.

Until we are willing to confront that, the cycle will continue unabated. The good news is, we seem to be getting a little bit closer to ending the cycle after every iteration. At least, I hope so.

Also, I know I'm generalizing a bit, and not every civilization is as brutal as the next.

PBS just actually released a video about this topic.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

People didn't move to America for the freedom to practice any religion, they moved here for the freedom to practice what they believe was _the correct religion.

Well...

Article 3. [Freedom in religion; right and duty of religious worship]

That all persons have a natural and unalienable right, to worship Almighty God, according to the dictates of their own consciences and understandings, as in their opinion shall be regulated by the word of God; and that no person ought to, or of right can be compelled to attend any religious worship, or erect or support any place of worship, or maintain any minister, contrary to the dictates of conscience, nor can any person be justly deprived or abridged of any civil right as a citizen, on account of religious sentiments, or peculia[r] mode of religious worship; and that no authority can, or ought to be vested in, or assumed by, any power whatever, that shall in any case interfere with, or in any manner control the rights of conscience, in the free exercise of religious worship. Nevertheless, every sect or denomination of christians ought to observe the sabbath or Lord’s day, and keep up some sort of religious worship, which to them shall seem most agreeable to the revealed will of God.

State of Vermont Constitution, 1793.

I really wish we could have got that "attend, erect, or support" clause in the US Constitution!

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah, for a minute I thought I was in lemmyshitpost and I was confused as I got to the end without catching the punchline...