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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Billionaires are ruining it. Don't let the NYT shift the blame.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The boomers that vote for far right grifters and are happy to pull up the ladder behind themselves certainly deserve a share of the blame too.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Nearly half of boomers have no retirement savings. Blame them all you want, but the problem is the rich. Always has been. Always will be.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most boomers gleefully enabled the system.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics

If by that you mean less than 44% of boomers didn't vote for Trump, and over 54% of Gen Z didn't vote for Trump, then you might be correct.

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Which part do you think was a lie? Half of all boomers being broke, or the rich being the problem?

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Oh its rich people. And the overwhelming majority of them being boomers.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Musk and Zuckerberg aren't boomers.

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 hour ago

And? There's other rich people out there

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The population that voted for them even though it hurts them are still at fault, even if they didn't write the billionaire backed legislation.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well I can tell you for sure it wasn't only boomers that voted for them.

I'm just trying to emphasize that this is a class war, not a generational war.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

As someone who's phone banked in plenty of primaries: It's boomers. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Couldn't possibly be that only boomers would answer the phone. Because you know those younger generations are totally known for answering calls from unknown numbers and participating in surveys.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I didn't only speak to Boomers. I spoke to plenty of younger people as well. It was the Boomers who were angry when I was campaigning for someone other than Clinton. It was the Boomers who were angry when I was campaigning for someone other than Biden.

If you don't believe me then try it in the next primaries. Campaign for an anti-billionaire, pro-worker, anti-genocidal candidate and come back and tell me about your experience.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Not all boomers. Sorry, blaming "boomers" is rather naive.

I've been around long enough to remember boomers blaming all the things on Silent/Greatest Generation. They had all the answers and could not wait to take over.

Just sayin' - I'm starting to see a pattern here.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem with boomers, though, is that they formed such a large voting block that their generation has been able to steer the political system in the US. We started seeing change in the 90s and it was gaining momentum in the early 00s, but the reactionaries went full tilt on fascism as a result.

This is a gross oversimllified take so please don't think it's meant as any kind of scholarly dissertation.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Gen Y is the largest generation right now.

All of voting age. Followed by Gen Z (not all of voting age - yet), then Gen X, then boomers.

I mean, what happened in the past as you describe as a result of the huge numbers of boomers is entirely possible. I'm Gen X, so believe it when I say I have my share of resentments about how we were overshadowed nearly our entire lives by boomers, and then the spotlight jumped right to Gen Y, but all because of numbers, and not any unique traits to either Gen Y or boomers or to Gen X.

But at this point, blaming boomers for what is happening now is rather....interesting, I have to say. They are the 4th largest group.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

What kind of loser spends their free time going around defending boomers?

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Now you're calling us losers?

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

In the same vein, you're all over this thread exclusively shitting on boomers and ignoring all other possibilities.

Looks like Astro turfing to me.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

How is it astroturfing when boomers hold most of the power in most of the world governments and most of the wealth to boot? Also only tankies care to astroturf on lemmy, there aren't enough people here to give a shit but propagandists gonna propagandize.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I'm all over this thread telling people to vote for anti-billionaire, pro-worker, anti-genocidal candidates in the primaries because there are too many pro-billionaire, anti-worker, pro-genocidal politicians in office. You don't think it's Boomers voting for those people in the primaries? Who do you think is electing those people?

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They have most of the wealth and the power. They're the ones doing the fascism. Every generation is doing their part on that fucked up front but the buck (literally) starts and stops with the boomers for the most part.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

White people have the most wealth and power.

City people have the most wealth and power.

Men have the most wealth and power.

Non-Indigenous people have the most wealth and power.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

So is it fucking white people, fucking city people, fucking white men, and fucking settlers?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Gen Y numbers are bigger right now, as a voting bloc.

Also, Gen Y is poised to be the richest generation on record: https://fortune.com/2025/03/28/millennials-richest-generation-on-record-great-wealth-transfer-from-baby-boomers/

I suspect all that wealth transfer may change....something...but I'm not in any way convinced that Gen Y is any better than the boomers, as a group. In fact, they have no real equivalent activism of the 60s generation from what I can tell. In fact, I'm almost certain Gen Y doesn't have some magical quality that the boomers don't and that they'll make things better just by dint of being a different generation with all the wealth and all the numbers....I'd love to be proven wrong, though.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You read fortune? I can go ahead and ignore you now, thanks for that out. Fucking boomers.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

I don't read Fortune.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Also Gen X and I don't blame them for the current state of things other than them being responsible for the groundwork that led to where we are and blocking progress as long as they did.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago

I suggest you try phone banking for an anti-billionaire candidate in a primary election. Your take on Boomers will become informed real fast.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

🙄

Engaging in ageism and inter-generational nonsense is just falling for the red herring.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Boomers that aren't part of the problem aren't offended by generalizations. Look in the mirror. You wanna defend landlords next?

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They might be annoyed more than offended.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

"Oh no I'm annoyed my generation is largely responsible for the destruction of the world."

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

One of Bill Maher's better videos—he even praises Greta Thunberg:

New Rule: OK, Zoomer | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYSLyvbR_1w

7:20

https://youtu.be/RYSLyvbR_1w?t=395 (cued)

"I wish, your generation was better than mine: I really do, but the sad truth is, we're completely the same: lots of talk, and at the end of the day, hopelessy, seduced and addicted, to pigging out on convenience, luxury, and consumption."

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't say all boomers. I very specifically said which ones i meant.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I very specifically said which ones i meant.

Where?

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago

Who's voting in primaries for the kinds of politicians who refuse to take on billionaires?