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[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So if I'm understanding you correctly, a constrained capitalism is idealism (fair) and somehow the farther left side of that is more realistic (absurd)?

If anything you're making my point for me.

You want to paint me as some defender of capitalism or accepting of it because of my creature comforts.....fill your boots, you don't know me. But at least get your logic in check.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any government is possible. You do not know american history enough or how the government works. If America continues after Donald Trump, then it will be something completely different than what it looked like before him. More and more Democratic Socialists are getting elected. Socialism is more and more likely the more socialists americans elect. My state house of representatives in Kentucky got one more. Times may be changing.

Your view of humans is wrong btw. You may be projecting.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you conflating democratic socialism with full blown socialism? That is most certainly not true socialism.

Evidence in my favor includes the Nordic countries, having a very firmly capitalist society with strong welfare policies. They blow the west out of the water on social outcomes.

But that's not socialism. That's exactly what I'm advocating for.

So do you think the Nordic countries are still too capitalist, or do you actually mean to argue that they're an example to follow? I guess it has to be the first?

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Democratic socialism is not social democracy. The nordic model is social democracy (european capitalism I call it). Democratic socialism is socialism, the thing I keep saying I want.

Europe is capitalist, I want socialism. Europe, as a whole, is too right wing and not anti capitalist, pro socialist, and leftist enough for me. I want america to be more socialist than capitalist europe.

I dont care about the west. 'The west' is a mythological culture that doesn't exist.

[–] homoludens@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Analogy: it's more realistic to cut a tumor out and heal the patient than to keep it growing at an acceptable rate.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 0 points 23 hours ago

Ah yes, except for when the tumor is 90% of the body. Then you can't just cut it out.

Good analogy, I like it.