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I'll preface this by saying that I don't think electorialism will be our liberation, but it is a tool which is available to us.

Reform (fash) or Restore (broke from Reform for not being fash enough) could likely win the next General Election and things would, in the absolute best case, continue on a very dark trajectory. A Restore policy is "re-migration" (yes, it's as bad as it sounds), so the worst case is much worse. The Greens are lib of course, but they have some decent policies (anti-NATO, anti-imperialist, anti-racist, anti-landlord, pro-trans) and are the leftmost party capable of winning a General Election (Your Party is cooked, and the various socialist and communist parties are very small). So, for now, I support them. I'm aware that many of their good policies will magically evaporate if they get into power, but they are still the least bad option by a significant margin.

I'm getting involved in some much better orgs already, but I still have spare time that I'd like to put to use. So, I went to a local Green Party meeting recently with the hope of taking part in some local organising to raise their profile and perhaps meet some comrades who feel similarly. They had some vegan food options, and I didn't get any overt transphobia, but there were was casual ableism, authoritarianism apologia, and very little talk of actual substance. It certainly didn't seem that anyone there was a comrade and, overall, I'm a bit put off by them.

Do I suck it up and work with them anyway? I can spare the time right now so it's not like it's taking away from anything better. But they're very lib.

Do you engage in any electorialism, and would you recommend it?

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[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It would be the lesser evil style electoralism to help them. Upside you might be able to convert some libs but otherwise to me it would feel like wasted effort but its up to you. I have spoken to a few green MPs and after maybe only 10 minutes of grilling discovered that at least the ones I talked to believe in absolutely nothing.

From what I have noticed politicians here follow the same rules as any corporate job. Its all backstabbing, ladder climbing careerist nonsense trying to say the most meaningless crap. Its all a pantomime of competence while saying nothing at all cos as far as I can tell most British people don’t believe in anything and are too racist, classist, ableist to ever give a shit about anyone else.

If there was any serious communist party here that wasn’t a bunch of circle jerking trots the police would be dismantling it instantly or maybe already have done so.

Personally im trying to focus on making a single brit in my life not a chud and its hard work lmao but I’ll keep going. I dont think this country will change without directly changing the minds of the people first. Maybe people within the green party supporter base is a good place to start?