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They prevent liberation by selling you back your chains with populous rhetoric and slogans
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So your plan is to work towards voter reform while supporting the politicians that do not want voter reform?
I'm sure some Democrats would like it, there's people who run on that platform. It's better than letting Republicans win at least.
They might claim to. They'll find the no votes.
As opposed to the Republicans who would never go for voter reform?
Republicans do what they run on.
Democrats don't.
So your solution is to what, not vote?
Your solution is to support democrats, but only when they're fighting progressives and supporting genocide.
No question mark.
Nah, that's dumb.
I'll vote Democrat to keep Republicans out of office, while doing things outside of voting to make real long term change. You know, things like voter reform. Just because they are both bad doesn't mean I'll just hand the reins over to the worst of them.
Seems a lot better than smugly looking down on people.
Like making the assumption that anyone who has a problem with genocide is a nonvoter.
Then who are you voting for then? Which party?
I voted for democrats last election. You got a party that manipulated the situation where the least insane vote was for them. That wasn't enough for you. You want everyone to be as happy as you are about it.
Who said I'm happy about it? Have you not read what I said? I'm just saying they are the shit sandwich that isn't on fire and covered in glass
So why are you trying to convince me to vote how I already voted in an election that already happened?
Are you hoping for a repeat of us being stuck with a genocide candidate with no primary?
No dingus I'm trying to keep Republicans out of office
Provided their opponent isn't a progressive.
So what's your solution for keeping Republicans out of office?
Stop interfering in primaries. Keep your promises. Stop supporting genocide.
You'd prefer fascism.
Wtf no, I'm asking you for what you, personally, are doing to keep Republicans out of office. What's your strategy, how do you vote, what have you found to be effective? I'd gladly stop voting for Democrats if you have a more effective strategy.
Same as you. Voting for democrats.
Unlike you, I'm not going to expect everyone to be happy to vote for genocidal shit like you want.
What gave the impression I was happy about voting for Democrats? Was it when I said they were a shit sandwich, or the several times I said I didn't like them?
You're literally doing the things I'm doing and I'm agreeing with you, I have no idea why you're mad at me now
I like to vote for the Greens
How's that been working out? I see sometimes they win local stuff
they got the Democrat nominee to champion their banner initiative: green new deal.
So... The best is that the Democrats say they are going to do it?
the most successful so-called third party in history got a constitutional amendment. as far as I know, they didn't win any congressional seats.
So voting third party is effectively useless to keep Republicans out of office
doesn't seem effective at keeping Democrats out of office either. voting for Democrats doesn't seem to keep Republicans out of office, either. maybe you should reconsider your goals for you vote.
Gee whiz I didn't realize there were the same amount of Democrats in office as third party members
I didn't say anything about that.
So, considering my goals are to keep Republicans out of office, and you admitted that third party people aren't effective in doing that, why would I vote third party? At least in Nationals. Local I feel like they have more of a shot.
voting for Democrats doesn't keep Republicans out of office. in fact, even if Democrats beat Republicans, the Republicans still take office (gw bush, Dr oz, many others)
.... There's been lots of times Democrats have been in office and not Republicans so that didn't make sense like, at all.
when was the last time Republicans weren't in office? 1860??
I mean, democrats don't offer anything better. They just lie about what they're going to do, then do the only thing they're for: selling weapons for genocide.
democrats are republicans
Ah, so you're a moderate and think both sides are the same, got it
No, I'm a communist that sees your parties from the outside, their differences are superficial and their similarities are vast
"both sides bad" is such a juvenile take. It's myopic. Yes, both sides are bad, but one side is clearly worse than the other. Not being able to handle that shows an inability to let go of binary thinking.
There's a difference between a stubbed toe and a broken leg, and looking down on people who don't want a broken leg and are trying to keep the "break everyone's legs" party out of power is just dumb.
It's liberals with the binary thinking. There are no 2 sides bad because the US is run by one oligarchy, and it's bad. There is no good shade of fascism.
Again, because you didn't seen to grasp this, there's bad, and then there's worse. Yes, both are bad. We get that, you're a good communist. But you don't think that Mamdani is the same level of evil as Trump, do you?
Demsocs keep you rounded up in the oligarchy with delusions that things will get better while they still exploit the global south and cater first to the wealthy
Yeah, and? Republicans are worse than that. I already know Democrats are bad.