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[–] obvs@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Christians frame things as "All of the Christians are sitting here in one group, and all of the non-Christians are sitting over there in a different group."

And that's fine. It's absolutely true.

And if God exists and is the creator of the universe, that's pretty good for the Christians, and pretty bad for everyone else.

But if God doesn't exist, then the Christians are just all together in a group that isn't getting to enjoy their existence while the rest of the world is just trying to enjoy theirs, and the Christians are just trying to prevent those other people from enjoying their lives.

Either way, I'm surprised that the creator of the universe would organize things so that it would look that way from the outside.

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The bible also says that god loves all creatures equally and since he created everything he should love every non-christian just as much as he loves christians. So why invest all the time if in the end, he loves you just the same?

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

He loves all people but hates sin. So if you're a sinner, he's not capable of loving you. Or something like that, idk, I stopped calling myself a Christian a long time ago for exactly these reasons. The god I was taught to worship would never even allow Hell to exist, much less send the majority of humanity there to suffer in never-ending torture.

[–] wieson@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

That's because it's neither a points system, nor a corporate ladder, nor an auction, nor an investment account. It is a relationship. I spend time with whom I love.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Uno reverse card on Pascal's wager