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[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 90 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Maybe this is the kick up the arse companies need to finally start using hCaptcha or even Anubis.

[–] mustbe3to20signs@feddit.org 46 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I hope so, but it could easily come the other way. "We are so used to/deeply integrated/in a close strategic partnership with Google therefore we rather lose 5 % of our customers that care about privacy and are a pain in the ass for our data-driven business."

[–] infeeeee@lemmy.zip 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

5% is huuuge overestimate. Maybe on a tech site or forum. On a regular website for the general public? Less than a rounding error. Remember, we are in a lemmy bubble

[–] mustbe3to20signs@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

I know, it was largely exaggerated, but a smaller percentage makes the negative scenario drastically more realistic.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 6 points 4 weeks ago

One can only hope. I know it likely won’t happen. But one has to have hope.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We've moved to Cloudflare's turnstile and it's significantly less obnoxious.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck cloudflare in general though...

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unless you use a VPN and run any kind of script blocker like noscript or uBlock Origin's medium or hard modes.

So fucking obnoxious.

[–] NKBTN@feddit.uk 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yup. I've had to add exceptions to my VPN for this reason. Mainly food/grocery delivery sites for some reason

[–] TheNamlessGuy@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe it's the kick in the ass they need to just cut out captchas completely, since they do absolutely nothing to block bots.

[–] Jako302@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They do though. The point of captchas isn't to block all bots, that's never going to happen. They are there to block the low effort bot army that's rampaging across the internet which is effectively a DDOS stack on smaller servers.

Big AI companies throw petabytes of Data into their models. Instead of crawling and saving it once, they just index each site worth using and scrap the data each time they train a model. As a server owner you either block the scrappers with a captcha or you blanked ban IP ranges that are known for scraping.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Please not hCaptcha. It's basically guaranteed to generate infinite loops.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can’t say I’ve come across that before

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's almost every time for me. Maybe they don't like my ad blocker or my browser's privacy settings but it's rare for hCaptcha to let me through after three or four repetitions.

Usually I give up after ten because of it won't let me in by then it won't let me in after a hundred. I tried.

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It should work if you use a Firefox based browser with tracking protection set to strict and resistFingerprinting disabled, then use Jshelter with the following settings.

  • Locally rendered images: Little lies
  • Locally generated audio: Little lies
  • WebAssembly speed-up: Enabled
  • Everything else including Fingerprint Detector disabled

Then visit fingerprint.com in a normal window, then visit it again in private mode with a VPN or with a dufferent server selected. You will see that the ID is different both times which proves that you're protected.

As for the adblocker, just use uBlock Origin with the Quick Fixes list disabled as it may shadowban YouTube comments because their bot protection is silent.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That is... a rather byzantine list of requirements to get a captcha service to work as opposed to just running a Firefox derivative with tracking protection on standard and a default-configuration uBO (which is the specific configuration that led to the 100 repetitions, not some kind of recommendation).

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A standard Firefox is not private and is easily fingerprintable. Those settings give you good privacy but won''t make most captchas fail.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am perfectly aware that these settings aren't very private and I usually run something a bit tighter. My point was that even a mostly vanilla setup couldn't get past hCaptcha.

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

You said "Firefox derivative" so resistFingerprinting may be enabled and WebGL blocked. If you're talking about Librewolf, you should turn those off, then use Jshelter to get the non-breaking protection back.

[–] lokalhorst@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yes just like they all actively support the Firefox browser...