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Because patriarchy.
That strikes me as a super cop out. People just like to be noticed and recognized and the more of it you have, the more of it you want, just like wealth.
I don't got the gym because of unrealistic male body standards, I do it because it feels good to be noticed even after you've got kids and you're happily married. It feels good to win and it feels bad to lose but if you have to lose at least you can crab bucket?
Bruh, its just as simple as that. Apply Occams Razor...
Take me down your line of thought because I don't see how Occam's razor applies. Everyone likes to be perceived as attractive or MORE attractive. It's not just women who take GLP-1s or get plastic surgery. And it's not just ugly people or pretty people, it's everybody. It's nicer to be desirable by popular standards than not. That's not the patriarchy, that's comparative evaluation for mate selection.
And if you're not into that it's fine, but everyone likes to be viewed as attractive.
I find the "bruh it's the patriarchy" to be, frankly, pretty fucking dumb.
Im just gonna give you ine example.
I got to the gym, because it improves my health and abilities, allowing me to do more and do it longer. Because I like experiencing life, so it allows me to experience more.
You do it to get noticed. Why?
Why not?
I increase weight and duration to be able to do more or go longer than than other people which brings feelings of accomplishment. It also brings all the benefits you describe. You don't HAVE to compete, but that doesn't mean that people who do compete are just victims of the patriarchy, that's an absurd take.
It's almost like we can all do things for different reasons and you don't have a monopoly on why people should do a thing.
You feel the need to compete for attention, because you have been told winning a competition increases your "value"....
Why do you think or feel that competing increases your value, somehow?
I'm telling you I like to compete and by every metric I'm probably both healthier and more capable than you as a result. I'm glad you're working on it, but it's not patriarchy, it's you kind of sucking and trying to catch up. I like attention as a motivator, but many people are just more motivated than you.
Society isn't the thing keeping you down, it's the law of averages. And maybe youre just average like everyone else.
Most people suck. At everything. All the time. Welcome. There's nothing wrong with that, but you've probably arrived.