so, why not run candidates on "we must secure the existence of our people"? will nathan j robinson take it as a sign that centrist democrats can now be defeated as well? the phrase is obscure and not known among wide public as well.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think he's suggesting an electoral strategy.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

he suggests amerikan innocence, right. they don't know (a) what military does (b) why it does it (c) why someone inside might get nazi tattoo as a celebration ritual

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

a neutral and accurate description of an american voter is not socdem dipshittery. this is the psychology of the average american voter. this is a fundamentally rightist nation at its core, especially in extremely white and rural parts of the country like maine. if the fancy lad made an excuse for this behavior in some way, then show that, but right now you're just complaining about the acknowledgement that the average american voter is still incredibly ignorant and reactionary. any socialist movement you imagine, whether it be vanguardist or anarchist, will have to contend with that. you are reading innocence into this, and you apparently need to figure out why you need him to end every statement analyzing the electorate with "and that's why electoralism is bad" so you understand that it's analysis.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Look at what has just happened in Maine, where insurgent left populist Graham Platner has driven incumbent governor Janet Mills from the state’s Senate primary.

Platner, an oyster farmer and populist with the backing of labor groups and Bernie Sanders, was up against a candidate hand-picked for the race by Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer. But by the end, Platner’s lead in the polls and in fundraising was so great that Mills decided not to even go through with the primary, since defeat was inevitable.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/the-democratic-establishment-can-be-defeated

as compared to: https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/graham-platner-and-the-lefts-masculinity-crisis

would you get from the first piece any oppositional bent?

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

hey so you see how that's what you're actually talking about and not the tweet you posted? that's my point.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

Those all seem like true statements as well.

Betting on the ignorance of the American public is always good odds, I think.

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

he's being an electoral pervert. i think he's just describing why something works with liberal conservatives and conservative liberals.

people like AOC and Platner are just part of a DNC consultant civil war and one should not expect much from them. or the electorate