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I feel like trying to persuade people to leave Windows purely from a privacy angle is being too specific or extreme for those who really don't care/gave up. I think a great, alternative way to win people over would be to simply point out how much more efficient it is and energy-saving for their own electric bills.

Just don't warn them about how much energy they may end up ironically expending as a result of tinkering with it and fixing issues and finding cool stuff like Burn My Windows, haha... 🀫

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[–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today 6 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I don't think you understand how little, efficiency, is going to work.

I could run my 3080 full time at full bore and it'll cost me $40. That's 24x7.

The average user is taking $10-$20 a year Delta.

If you want people to actually switch, it needs to work. Now where are the 5 nerds here to tell me it's bug free but I just need to get rid of my Nvidia card πŸ™„

[–] Maddier1993@programming.dev 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Now where are the 5 nerds here to tell me it’s bug free but I just need to get rid of my Nvidia card πŸ™„

hi I am here. But you're barking up the wrong tree. Ask NVIDIA to fix their shit on Linux. It's unreasonable for open source devs to fix it when they don't even have access to the source code for NVIDIA drivers?

[–] spartanatreyu@programming.dev 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I could run my 3080 full time at full bore and it’ll cost me $40. That’s 24x7.

The average user is taking $10-$20 a year Delta.

RTX 3080 draws up to 350 watts max.

Energy cost varies wildly per location.

Looking at: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/cost-of-electricity-by-country

  • The average cost of electricity in the US is 0.18USD per kWh
  • The average cost of electricity in the UK is 0.40USD per kWh

Sidenote 1: Even within the two countries above, there's going to be massive regional differences, but we're just looking at the averages

Sidenote 2: Other places may have cheaper electricity (e.g. Argentina at 0.08USD per kWh) but that's only half the story since the people there make a lot less money so it still takes up a significant cost for them.

Running the card at those costs 24x7 is:

  • US: $10.58USD per week, $552.26USD per year
  • UK: $23.52USD per week, $1,227.24USD per year

So a little bigger than:

The average user is taking $10-$20 a year Delta.

Going further, assuming an average 4 year card lifespan, that's:

  • US: $2,209.04USD
  • UK: $4,908.96USD
[–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today -5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Good job on doing the math on those .01% of users pulling actually 350w running a Bitcoin mine. You definitely proved me wrong with this massive edge case that went beyond my napkin math point to demonstrate the absurdity.

Autistic kids missing the forrest for the tree. Name a better pair.

Also note, since we are going off the deep end pedantic nerd shit, 'average user' while you are out there maxing the delta with edge cases.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You're the one who said 24/7

If you were off by even one order of magnitude, I'd say you have a point... But you were off by several orders of magnitude.

Not sure why it makes them autistic for checking your shit math.

One day someone will issue a mea culpa when caught chatting shit but today is not that day.

[–] Gabadabs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 days ago

Been using Nvidia on Linux for a long time and it mostly works just fine. On occasion a game doesn't work right, in which case I wait a while on that particular game until it does work.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

$40/year for 24/7 running? Really? Hmm... I've gotta educate myself on these numbers, I suppose... Also, I have a 3080, too, lol.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

With electricity prices going up, I've actually had people make that decision based on price.

[–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today -3 points 5 days ago

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