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[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Of course I'm not going to give any weight to an obvious propaganda site... ROFL

I mean did you even look at the "supported organizations" it reads like a who's who of extreme gun nuts.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Do you dispute that they are quoting FBI data? I’m not trying to be deceptive, I was looking for an overview that reflects the facts that have been presented in every safety class I’ve taken. I found similar numbers in other articles, that one just had the best formatting for presenting the same information.

Also, do you see what I mean when I say that your statistic of .09% is not accurately reflecting if a gun is an effective self defense method?

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I dispute everything from propaganda sites, it's not worth my time to track down their BS and figure out whether they out right lied, took a quote out of context, intentionally misrepresented it, twisted its intended meaning, or cherry picked a single fact out of a hundred that seems to support their claim.

Nah, if you want to believe that to support your misguided belief that's on you.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I’ll dive for the direct FBI data when I have time after work today and put it here when I find it.

I am willing to have my mind changed if compelling information is presented. Did you have anything to say about your own misleading .09% statistic?

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, first it's not misleading, it is a fact from a reputable unbiased site and properly sourced.

Second, I'm done wasting time on you, it's pretty clear you'll continue to do anything possible to ignore the truth because it impacts your desire to carry a deadly weapon around to satisfy your insecurities.

Good day.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

The way you were using the fact was not supporting the assertion that a gun is an ineffective self defense tool in an altercation. If I misunderstood what you were getting at, you are welcome to correct me.

I’m sorry you found this a waste of time—I thought you were trying to convince me of something and I was trying to have a discussion about the numbers with you. I’m not trying to ignore the truth, you just haven’t showed me anything that says that a gun isn’t effective to have if you are being attacked by someone. I’d much prefer you show me some compelling data than just run away, but you are, of course, welcome to do whatever you want.

See you around. No hard feelings.