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[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 114 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Ironically if you really want employees to be motivated by more than money, you need to pay even more.

Only people who don't worry about money can afford to be motivated by other things.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago

Only people who don't worry about money can afford to be motivated by other things.

Which is exactly why it's important that they make sure most people can't afford this

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nobody is motivated by money.

The poor are motivated to be able to afford food they need money for this they are motivated by the need to eat money is simply a means to an ends.

The middle class are motivated by comfort and ironically will work very hard to achieve this. Once again money is the means to this ends.

The rich are motivated by power and influence and will do anything to achieve this. Again money is the means not the ends.

To not be motivated by money one must become the Buddha. To not want money one must want for nothing that money can purchase but by its very definition it can purchase anything. So one must want for nothing and thus have achieved nirvana. I doubt someone who has achieved nirvana would find themselves working a dead end job.

[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A Buddha is the correct way to say that, and you don't just throw away all desires, permenantly. Desires still come, but is in unentangling yourself from your karmic fetters that allows one to be unattached from their desires. To want nothing is to be dead. Buddhas still have wants. Negative thoughts come, but they go just as quickly, and in developing one's inner world, their unconscious mind catches most unuseful percolations to the surface.

There is a story about Mara, which is kinda, sorta "the Buddhist devil" in a trickster sort of way, yet is also an enlightened being, who once possessed a child and threw a rock at an arhant's head while he was walking in jhana meditation behind the Buddha. The rock hit his head and drew blood, and from the outsider's perspective, it looks as if the arhant is unphased, but there was a microsecond of the feeling and the cascade of processes within him.

The thing is, enlightenment involves, in modern terms, developing one's prefrontal cortex to predict the animal part of the brain and cut it off at the pass, so to speak. So, even before the rock finished impacting him, the arhant would have unconsciously quieted the parts of him that are inclined to react.

Also, you don't "achieve" Nirvana, as that implies personally accomplishing some feat, when it is really a process akin to entering a stream and being carried to a place you see what you need to see to understand the entanglement process of Karma.

Likewise, someone who has been awakened to the emptiness inside them would absolutely work a dead-end job if they knew there was merit to it. A Buddha is a perfect spy, for instance, for they would be able to do the highest or lowest job or task required of them to complete their mission, peacefully and skillfully.

This is my poem, a lipogram using only A and E vowels, entitled Nervana:

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thx for the info my understanding of the philosophy is relatively surface level. If you have any books u would recommend I read to understand I'd appreciate a recommendation. I'm not looking to convert just interested in the philosophy and ideas. Would especially appreciate something that integrates will with Albert Camus absurdism. I would prefer a translation of something old as I find in many places contemporary works take existing knowledge as a given and also tend to soften the messages that the foundational texts where based on.

Well, y'know, if you're asking me, personally, I would recommend going through my educational (f)art project, now contained here on my Lemmy profile; my latest post on c/atheism is a good example of a solid, serious post contained within, but also I do do the absurdism to the Nth degree. You'll see I go in and out of character, with is an exaggerated caricature of my past self. The goal is to teach philosophy, spirituality, and mental health skills to help people like past me heal and self-actualize. The further back you go, all the way to when I started daily writing twelve years ago, the less skillfully unhinged I get and more edge-lordy I was. I've healed a lot. Also, you'll see in my c/atheism post the subreddit I linked to. That's my friend Vince's sub, r/ShrugLifeSyndicate, which is where I got started and contains different varieties from multiple people of what Vince, jux who wrote the linked post in my post, and I do. We try playing off each other to market the same wisdom to different demographics.

But as for "older," I would recommend delving into the occult, which is a word that just means hidden. There's a lot of absurdists who have made their own mysticism schools, because the way we do things in the occident is we engineered our culture to control those people who cannot think for themselves whilst simultaneously guiding those waking up to the matrix into the occult. The Bible is a good foundation that contains much that I did not know was contained therein until I started digging below the surface in these schools to understand its depth.

Even if you provide other motivations that are substantial, it's going to cost money.

Want people with children to work there longer? Provide them with onsite or daycare somewhere. Daycare is a huge expense for a parent to take on just to continue working. If it's onsite, they can when things calm down a bit visit their children and have a moment together.

More vacation time and some leisure time during the day. More vacation would mean having a workforce robust enough to handle it. What this does as well though is help spread the everyday load without that consideration to prevent or mitigate burnout. As well if I can just take 15 minutes to go get water, use the restroom, talk a little bit without feeling like the boss is breathing down my neck...