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[–] LittleFellaNamedBoof@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (24 children)

You can go through the windshield and hit other people outside your car.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (23 children)

I mean yeah you could but is that enough of a problem to require legislature? I can do 60 kp/h on a ski slope and just obliterate a small child and until I do the latter that seems perfectly legal. I could fuck up sykdiving really hard and just goomba stomp a disabled person but like does that really happen and neither doing 60 on a ski slope nor goomba stomping the disabled via parachute is expressively illegal in any law system I know

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 4 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

nor goomba stomping the disabled via parachute is expressively illegal in any law system I know

This is called assault and battery, so it doesn't need its own law. If you're specifically targeting someone for being disabled, there's a good chance it's a hate crime, too. I don't understand what makes this a good example.

Also, as others patiently tried to explain, the number of person-hours spent driving versus skiing and skydiving are wildly different, and that's probably the more important part. At best, you're making an argument that skiing should have speed limits (probably by rating or something since putting the same speed limit on a bunny slope as an expert slope that is practically dumping you straight down would be silly).

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This is called assault and battery, so it doesn't need its own law.

Why would this not apply at hurling your ass through a windshield into another person then if seatbelts weren't mandatory? I mean I specifically said fucking up skydiving not doing it on purpose

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I think I just missed your implication that it would be accidental (totally fair assumption, my bad).

As other people said, reckless endangerment, criminal negligence, and manslaughter are real charges, but ideally we should be trying to prevent these things from happening beyond simply punishing people who do them. As far as I know, this is accounted for in skydiving with the need to have pre-determined drop zones that are appropriately clear for the safety of yourself and the people you might otherwise collide with. The safety requirements are probably not extensive enough, but I am pretty sure it's not legal to just unilaterally decide you're dropping in a public park without preparing the area first (outside of emergencies).

It's like how driving drunk is illegal, not just an aggravating factor in convictions stemming from getting in a crash, because we want to avoid the conditions of a bad thing happening (and be able to intervene if someone is creating those conditions), not just hope that threat of punishment discourages it.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 1 points 6 hours ago

As other people said, reckless endangerment, criminal negligence, and manslaughter are real charges, but ideally we should be trying to prevent these things from happening beyond simply punishing people who do them.

Just for the understanding, this is still going off of the notion that seatbelt laws are primarily or at least in a major part on account of so other people don't get hit by people getting thrown out of cars, right?

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