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[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The part i dont understand is this; lets say israel successfully controls all of gaza and all Palestinians are displaced, then what? Arent they now a sitting duck after removing the only reason the muslim world has for holding back?

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Based on my understanding, there's two considerations:

  1. I don't think most Israelis expect Arab neighbors to actually care about the Palestinians. They reason that many of the citizens in those countries are mad, but leaders are all corrupt and can be bought off or manipulated.

  2. There's a general mania for war, and a belief that they can just threaten or kill anyone who tries to stop them.

It's all insane. The general Israeli public is heavily propagandized and traumatized. I think it's possible that experts might eventually categorize this period as a mass hysteria event among Israeli Jews.

Just to add some additional context, it's rarely discussed in America, but Israeli society is getting torn apart by all of this. Not over political disagreements (sadly genocide has become overwhelmingly popular) but this state of constant war is destroying their economy, their labor force, their international collaborations, and the general mental health of their society. It's obviously nothing compared to what their victims in Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank are going through, but the population within Israel is setting fire to their own society in their lust for blood.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Thank you for the insight, that was a great bit of info that i had no idea about. Even with free internet access, i find its still really hard to break out of the bubble and learn these things.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

They have had this plan since Ben Gurion founded the country. They will move on to Syria and Jordan next, then Egypt.

“We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai.” David Ben-Gurion May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, a Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All the Arab leaders are puppets traitors that will do nothing to really help Palestinians and will not act until Israel go after them directly. So Palestinians will be forced to Egypt then Palestinians will rearm in Egypt and Jordan which would gives Israel an excuse to invade those two countries. They could find similar excuses to go after other arab countries

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Why wouldn't it make sense? Israel colonized gaza, the west bank and multiple other arab land based on national security pretense . The greater Israel is a real project.