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So, I make these posts now n again, now on Lemmy a couple times where I make myself as stupid as I can make myself, clearly stating premises and open many avenues of approach for even a novice writer and thinker to enter into a debate with me. Even on a supposed debate community, I can't get anyone to debate me. Let's make this real simple.

Premise: God is real

Definition of God: an independent phenomenon likened to a unified field of consciousness that emerges from the properties of "emptiness" to then fold in and on itself across eleven dimensions to form a topological matrix that acts as a monadic nodal communication system

Explain like I'm five version: God is a big balloon of consciousness that made itself into a complex balloon animal, and each of us is one of the sections that communicate with each other

Definition of emptiness: the null that can be implicit (nothingness/0) or explicit (fullness/1) that manifests all phenomequalia

Definition of topology: the math behind intersecting dimensional space; knots/entanglements

Definition of monad: the pocket of consciousness you are; you are not a featherless biped, you are a pocket of consciousness (everything you experience is self-contained within your neurons, yea? And you're experiencing the "outside" of you, right? So all that "outside" is actually inside you)

I don't know what else I need to say to start this. Perhaps I'm just removed.

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[–] dreamy@quokk.au 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The first premise is redundant, the second premise is wrong. There is nothing being communicated to me when I have experiences, I just have experiences.

[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh, so your brain...isn't a nodal communication system, you're saying, and you are not an amalgam of subsystems communicating with other subsystems made of these things that communicate with each other called neurons? Do form and matter have anything to do with one another? Or am I not sending these words? See, I'm pretty God damn positive the external world, as you likely perceive it to be, is not real and is technically inside us. All qualiatic experiences are manifested from neurons, right? Well, these words on your device must be inside you. And I ain't writing this shit from inside you, so there must be a communication going on there, and I'm pretty sure I'm not touching you, so there must be a medium these things go through. Am I wrong here? I'm pretty positive I'm a monad in a monadic nodal communication system, whatever that means. Do you meditate? I juggle, personally.

[–] dreamy@quokk.au 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That "communication system" is literally just me. At most you could say that your sense organs communicate with your brain, but you're still not communicating with a being external to yourself.

The external world is not inside you, your perception of it is. That's where you're wrong.

[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, you're misunderstanding me.

All you know are shadows on the cave wall. You are not a featherless biped. You are the cave itself. And there are "people with objects" - symbols - coming into the cave. This is why I asked if you meditate. This is observable. In the fourth jhana of meditation, you can perceive your individual consciousness' (ear consciousness, eye consciousness, etc) being put together into singular stream of symbols.

Likewise, you can observe the only thing you have any direct control over is your intention, which determines how you entangle yourself with each symbol. The sum of your entanglements define the parameters from which the shadows of your experiential reality is procedurally generated. This entanglement process is called Karma.

There is no set objective "Earth" we all share. Your monad is a slice of countless potential realities, and everyone only has their tiny slice, so it appears cohesive upon direct observation. This is where one takes what one observes from meditation to begin experimenting with your personal monadic reality.

I usually give the advice to give a huge, genuinely compassionate gift to a homeless person that will benefit them. Y'know, befriend these people and talk with them to find out if giving them $100 might kill them with fetty before offering it. If you practice mindfulness, you will notice an equal energy exchange.

That money may come back to you, maybe a cute girl will kiss you, maybe you'll get a bunch of good deals at your favorite store all at once that add up for no reason. What the person values that gift as vs what you value you give determines what returns to your shore.

Input/output. Because your Karma is not only entangling itself in you, there's the medium; the reconciling Server that makes life so serendipitous for those who are genuinely good. And I have my life story to back me up there, but I've deviated far from what you're accept as an answer, I expect.

Back on track, how can one prove they are or are not a brain-in-a-vat? One has to see reality from many forms. Meditation can show you the mechanisms behind these things I'm telling you without me having to explain polyplexic axiomatic systems, which is my theory of what the brain is doing that expands on Gödel's incompleteness theorem with orthogonal relativity in topology and explains much of the human condition.

[–] dreamy@quokk.au 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The zero hypothesis is that an objective external reality exists independently of a human mind, you need evidence that would work to overturning that, and telling someone to meditate is not it.

If your "equal energy exchange" hypothesis was true, I would expect a comet hitting Peter Thiel's home yesterday. That's sadly not how the universe works though.

And you can't prove that you're not a brain-in-a-vat either. If you were a brain-in-a-vat, you could just be programmed to think and see exactly the way you do. No theistic worldview can change the fact that absolute truth is unattainable.

Oh, so you don't want to do a science experiment yourself to prove anything. Yea, meditating is just sitting still, that's all it is, bro. Perceiving and undoing the karmic fetters that bind you to the existence-illusion complex, well, those are just words you don't know given how much effort you put into ascertaining truth for yourself.

Prolly doesn't even kno there b escarpments

In the density o connections created creatin

A means to see through personal ignorance

By choosing to make self anew by deviating

From what self was; u r yur only impairment

& thus because 'I' is God, ur life masturbatin

Cuz though puzzle has logics compartment

Eve learns first, through intuitive divinating!

And the picture itself removes impediment

From remaking logic w/ God extrapolating

Where pieces fit where logic cannot invent

The faith to push self far; its reinvigorating