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[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The knicks are on a crazy 10 game run never done before and 1 game away from being in the finals which they havent made since 1999. Tickets would normally be kind of high, but all of this and the demand is high by fans. Its been so crazy that ticket sales and audience attendees at away games are showing more knicks fans over the home team.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Wait. They let away fans sit in the home team section?

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Im pretty sure they let them sit wherever they can get tickets. I also heard attendance was so bad for the 2 76ers home games they donated a lot just to fill seats. If its that bad it's no wonder knicks fans are taking over at away games.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

There are no sections, you can sit where you want.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, weirdly we totally missed out on hooliganism in the US. Sports games are just people watching sports.

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bread and circuses. The biggest difference is we tend to riot after our team wins. 🤷‍♂️ ‘Murica.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Honestly, the US doesn't have anything that even resembles hooliganism, let alone the fucking insanity of Ultras. The occasional overly enthusiastic celebration after a team win sure maybe minor damage to like a streetlamp or a couple broken windows; when was the last time fans of the losing team were murdered while it was happening?

Like can you imagine the outrage in the US if people tried to pull this shit at the superbowl?

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/what-we-know-about-the-shooting-near-the-kansas-city-chiefs-parade

I agree the US doesn’t produce hooliganism, that was my point. We unfortunately translate the vibe in our own way that ends up much worse.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that ends up much worse.

The one incident doesn't mean it's overall "much worse".

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You’re arguing both sides when it’s convenient. In one response the country is full of shitty fans trying to scapegoat a single incident, in another example eight kids getting injured isn’t “much worse” overall. What are you even trying to prove, that non-American hooliganism and violence is somehow more nobly hooliganistic and violent because it’s non-American? A bunch of dipshits ransacking their town because their favorite sports team won or lost is still a bunch of dipshits ransacking their town. By all means, kill each other over a game if that’s how invested you both are, but don’t drag those uninvolved into your shenanigans.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You’re arguing both sides when it’s convenient. In one response the country is full of shitty fans trying to scapegoat a single incident, in another example eight kids getting injured isn’t “much worse” overall.

That's not arguing "both sides". I never said the "country is full of shitty fans" I said every fanbase has SOME shitty fans. The vast majority or normal people who just enjoy sports.

My point is consistent. In either case, smaller incidents shouldn't be considered worse than the much more frequent and widespread hooliganism seen around the world.

What are you even trying to prove, that non-American hooliganism and violence is somehow more nobly hooliganistic and violent because it’s non-American?

I'm not trying to "prove" anything. Just pointing out that your singular example is not a legit comparison to the historical violence of hooliganism in other countries. It is certainly not proof that that level of hooliganism exists in the US or is somehow worse in the US.

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago

No response to point three?

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Philadelphia fans "Are we joke?"

Fans of the Eagles and Phillies, in particular, consistently ranked as the worst sports fans in the country. In addition to booing their own players, Philadelphia fans have committed infractions such as intentionally vomiting on an 11-year-old girl, cheering for Michael Irvin’s gruesome career-ending injury, and general rabblerousery. “I would hate us too,” said Philadelphia native Sean McHugh ’25. “[We have] multiple fights, multiple obscene gestures, but it just shows how passionate everyone here is for their teams.”

https://haverfordclerk.com/proudly-the-worst-fans-in-america/

Booed Santa Claus.

Things got so bad at the Vet that a jail and courtroom were installed in the bowels of the stadium to handle unruly fans. Last year a Phillies fan tossed the cell phone of a Mets supporter out of the left-field seats. GQ once rated the Phillies and Eagles as having the first and second worst fan bases in America, respectively.

https://time.com/6324292/phillies-fans-appreciation-philadelphia-eagles/

The Flyers fan might have been thinking that the Leafs’ supporters were taunting the home team, but that does not excuse what he did next. He hopped over several rows of seats to confront the visiting fans and ended up punching the two male fans before their female friend eventually tried to break things up.

https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/two-maple-leafs-fans-get-brutally-attacked-at-flyers-game-in-viral-video

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Booing "Santa Clause", who was actually a drunk they found at the last minute happened in the 1960s.

The only reason Philly fans are the "worst" is the rest of the country needs a scapegoat to ignore their own shitty fans.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

In fact yes, they are a complete joke.

https://www.imedd.org/opinion-article-fan-violence-ultras-and-hooligans/

https://hir.harvard.edu/fanaticism-and-the-ultras-movement/

My goodness, they threw a phone out of a seat? Those utter bastards.