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For those interested on the question of age verification and GNU/Linux: be aware that Systemd v261-rc1 was recently released. It now implements an optional birth date field in the JSON user database (see second item under "Other changes").

The implementation of this field was prompted by age-verification or -attestation laws.

(Age-verification status of Open Source Operating Systems.)

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Just don't go to Debian


next day edit: Some of you have never been trolled before, and it shows.

You see, the real_name field has been part of the GECOS field since the 70s. Anyone who has any actual experience with Linux knows this.

There is some bit of drama about adding birth_date to systemd. The person that I'm responding to appears to subscribe to this drama due to the fact that they're recommending distros who either don't use systemd or, even more stupid, 'fork' the project to remove that field.

So, I made a meme from the point of view of one of these people, expressing outrage that Debian is asking for a user's Real Name... when only a newbie doesn't know these things.

And lest you think I'm doing the "I was caught being dumb so I'm claiming to be trolling" here's a comment of mine from over a month ago making that exact same joke, but more explicitly.

Congrats to the 3 people who got the joke.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Are you seriously suggesting that this forces you to enter your actual name?

The field doesn't even distinguish between first/last name. It's just fluff as explained above. It's also not a systemd thing, or even Debian. This has existed for literally decades, and for just as long people put in whatever the fuck they want.

But you got so mad you had to make a meme about it.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But you got so mad you had to make a meme about it.

Some of you have never been trolled before, and it shows.

You see, the real_name field has been part of the GECOS field since the 70s. Anyone who has any actual experience with Linux knows this.

There is some bit of drama about adding birth_date to systemd. The person that I'm responding to appears to subscribe to this drama due to the fact that they're recommending distros who either don't use systemd or, even more stupid, 'fork' the project to remove that field.

So, I made a meme from the point of view of one of these people, expressing outrage that Debian is asking for a user's Real Name... when only a newbie doesn't know these things.

And lest you think I'm doing the "I was caught being dumb so I'm claiming to be trolling" here's a comment of mine from over a month ago making this exact same joke, but more explicitly.

[–] unique_hemp@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And does this date field force you to enter your real DOB?

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip -1 points 1 month ago

Probably not. This whole post is basically FUD

[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I never write my full name anyway, just my first name.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

User1

Player2

Admin

Guest

It's just asking for something to differentiate users. You don't have to enter your actual real name.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

(I know)

https://lemmy.world/post/45580224/23217198 - "It's the intent that matters"

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Ooops@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Debian daring to suggest that using your real name to identify yourself on the system is a reasonable choice for most people. So get the torches and pitchforks...

Also don't tell those people about the fact that such fields for additional information (like real name, address etc) exist in most user-handling parts of their software since forever.

You get asked for your real name when creating a new user for longer than Linux even exists. It's just that noone actually cares. But now that's suddenly an horrific anti privacy policy because the narrative demand that it is.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Finally!

I was getting depressed that nobody would get the joke, what has the Internet become...

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I have literally in the thousands of installations I've done, literally never once put any genuine information in there. Who does? Why would anyone? Every tech through the ages has asked for your name as a matter of convenience and formality. I don't know if I have ever put my actual info into any such field in the 40+ years - jeez close to 45 now, that I've been using computer tech.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

literally never once put any genuine information in there. Who does? Why would anyone?

(That's the joke) - 1mo ago

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 1 points 4 weeks ago

I have literally in the thousands of installations I’ve done, literally never once put any genuine information in there. Who does? Why would anyone?

Private user ? Probably nobody, I agree. Commercial users ? Probably everyone, it is somewhat mandated.

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

My default OS user name is None Ya.

[–] juipeltje@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I hate to break it to you, but pretty much every distro does this, except maybe a manual chroot install like arch

[–] jdr@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago

Why the fuck are they telling you what to do? Computers are servants, not masters.