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[โ€“] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

getting things in orbit is very expensive, for what serves the same purpose of a submarine

Orbital scanning tech is getting more advanced by the year. Submarines may lose their stealth advantage by the end of the decade

[โ€“] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We are comparing them to something that you can detect by looking up. They will never lose that advantage.

[โ€“] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It doesn't fucking matter if the satellites are easier to detect. The job of a sub isn't to kill satellites. It's job is to stay hidden and be ready to nuke a country in a retaliatory strike as a deterrent.

Subs are slow, and very high value targets if you're looking at a potential nuclear exchange. If a sub is spotted, it's going to be added to the list of first strike targets so the attacker doesn't have to worry about retaliation.

[โ€“] marcos@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, putting the missiles in orbit instead of the submarine improves exactly what on that list of requirements?

[โ€“] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The missiles will be significantly harder to hit than the submarine in a few years.

Are there missile defense systems? Yes, but taking down short range missiles is significantly easier than ICBMs or hypersonic missiles. It's like hitting a bullet with another bullet if you don't catch it early in the launch.

And you're forgetting that MIRV's are a thing. Missile defense systems have limited capacity and are expensive to field. Meanwhile you can use MIRV's to multiply the effective number of missiles you're launching for not much extra cost.

[โ€“] marcos@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The missiles will be significantly harder to hit than the submarine in a few years.

The missiles that pass over your head in a fixed time 16 times a day?

[โ€“] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Way to completely misread what I said.

The missiles won't be harder to hit in the future. Submarines are going to be that much easier to hit.

Are you done being a dick now?

[โ€“] marcos@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Take a look at what invention you are talking about.

Jfc you're dense. Just shut the fuck up