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[–] 5ha99y@lemmus.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Capitalism is dominant and longer used than Communism. The total amount of deaths is naturally higher. It doesn't tell anything about the actual amount of deaths communism could have, if it is active in the same capacity and amount of time, this plot would be more interesting.

And just to make things clear, I am not taking a position for any of the two. I just think this argument is not representative.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We can draw numbers from countries that lived both. How about... Russia? Yeah, the numbers don't look good.

Furthermore, we can draw conclussions from the simple fact that Capitalism is ruled by Capital. It doesn't care about anything else but to amass capital, in order to do this, it will kill, rape, torture, coup, create different kinds of military operations, etc. Or simply do stupid shit, like... using cars instead of trains (jaywalking was invented by capital!).

Socialism in the other hand is ruled by material conditions and a drive to develop the productive forces in order to satisfy the needs of the proletariat.

We do not need actual numbers because the philosophies of both already tell us what they outcomes will, more or less, look like. One doesn't care about lives, or productivity, simply treating currency as a literal replacement of God, it is a Frankenstein's monster that replaced religion by Capital. Amen.

[–] Egriaga@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

Fair point, but capitalism is broad and includes actions done in the 1600s by groups such as the East India Company. While communism is a small group of 20th/21st century countries

[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can't have opinions like that. You have to choose sides. /S

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's why they're called opinions! Not facts!

[–] 5ha99y@lemmus.org 5 points 1 day ago

Well, the post tries to deliver a fact, which is not representational. I see the opinion that philosophically communism might be defending human rights better but the post tries to back it by facts, which are inherently not representative.